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Ralph Cifaretto- Sopranos
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:39 pm
I was watching the Season 4 episode "Whoever Did This" of the Sopranos the other day, and this question still lingers in my mind... Did Ralph Cifaretto really set the fire that killed Pie-O-My? He denied it up and down to Tony, but there seemed to be a subtle possibility that he did due to certain things he said in that final conversation with Tony. The Sopranos, as awesome a show as it is, left the audience hanging on several occasions, and this was one of them. We never found out for sure if Ralph set the fire or not, so Tony killing him in anger over the perceived murder of Pie-O-My never reached full closure.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:42 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Of course he did it. Never a doubt in my mind.
Shitty sick horse. $200,000 insurance.
Ralphie being Ralphie.
Shitty sick horse. $200,000 insurance.
Ralphie being Ralphie.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:46 pm to SaintlyTiger88
He definitely set the fire. I didn't think it was that unclear either.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:55 pm to SW2SCLA
He did tell Tony he didn't do it but the $200,000 insurance policy and his willingness to let the horse die in an earlier episode, tells a different story.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:10 pm to SaintlyTiger88
That final Ralph and Tony scene is one of the greatest TV scenes ever.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:31 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Tony's love for animals is a funny part of the show., like when he threatens to suffocate Chris for killing the dog and when he smokes the cigar with the horse.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:34 pm to Sevendust912
And those damn ducks. Haha
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:36 pm to SaintlyTiger88
He did it. Said something like "frick it! It was just a horse! My son is dying in a hospital."
Hilarious that Tony was more emotional about Ralphie hurting a horse than leaving his vegetable son fatherless.
Hilarious that Tony was more emotional about Ralphie hurting a horse than leaving his vegetable son fatherless.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:02 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Tony wanted to kill Ralphie anyway, and probably didn't give a frick either way. The horse was just his justification.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:21 pm to JuiceTerry
No doubt in my mind Ralph did it.
The only thing I cannot recall being followed up on in the whole series was the fate of the group that attacked Christopher when he was all messed up.
The only thing I cannot recall being followed up on in the whole series was the fate of the group that attacked Christopher when he was all messed up.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:26 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The scene were Janice is fricking him in the arse with a dildo is one I will never forget. I was like, "wtf is going on here?"
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:30 pm to JuiceTerry
Though I feel that Ralphie did do it, I think there's an interesting case it could have been Paulie.
1. Paulie HATED Ralphie and he knew Tony was attached to that horse. Thus, he sets Ralphie up and he'd figure Tony would overreact and kill him.
2. Ever since the Pine Barrens episode in Season 3, Tony and Paulie weren't exactly on good terms.
3. In a later season, there's a discussion about Ralphie's death and it seemed the crew knew Tony did it as a result of the horse being killed. How did they know? Tony wouldn't say anything and Chrissy wouldn't since he was involved in the cover-up.
1. Paulie HATED Ralphie and he knew Tony was attached to that horse. Thus, he sets Ralphie up and he'd figure Tony would overreact and kill him.
2. Ever since the Pine Barrens episode in Season 3, Tony and Paulie weren't exactly on good terms.
3. In a later season, there's a discussion about Ralphie's death and it seemed the crew knew Tony did it as a result of the horse being killed. How did they know? Tony wouldn't say anything and Chrissy wouldn't since he was involved in the cover-up.
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