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Brand new TV isn't showing the quality picture I expected

Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Books
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:38 pm
Brand new Samsung UN60F8000, but the picture is not as crystal clear as it should be. It's not terrible, but nowhere near as crisp as our other HD TV in our bedroom.

I've exhausted the obvious avenues; ie owners manual and can't find anything online.

New HDMI cable connected to the HD receiver, and used these picture settings from cnet .

Output on the STB is set to 1080i, the highest available through Cox.

I'm pretty sure I'm missing something obvious, but cannot get the clarity this tv should be putting out. I'm now looking into possibly getting a professional calibration.

Any help is appreciated.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:40 pm to
Are you just watching normal television? Bc if so you're not gonna see crisp 1080p picture. The real test is to throw a Blu Ray on or something like that.
Also never hurts to search for your model and look up commonly used setting levels.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:41 pm to
Like the poster below, you need to consider two things: is the feed you're watching in 1080 (HD) and is your TV set to play HD.

If you have both, you should have HD.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58527 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:44 pm to
Well, I'm an idiot.

That is all.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
52895 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:46 pm to
Check your settings, if your set has adjustable refresh rates make sure you are at the maximum refresh rate for your setting (which should be 1920x1080p).
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
81182 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure I'm missing something obvious, but cannot get the clarity this tv should be putting out. I'm now looking into possibly getting a professional calibration.


do the HD samples in the store look better? (assuming you bought it locally)

you can download those to a USB stick or something and run them locally and see how they look.

at least then you could tell whether its a poor signal/source or your tv settings themselves.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24355 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure I'm missing something obvious


how about calibrating it?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Books


How much smaller is the TV in your bedroom, and how much farther away are you sitting from it in the bedroom?

Cox might output some channels/content in 1080i, but I believe the majority of the content is broadcast in 720p.

Is this a different TV from the one you had when we did your PC build, or is it the same? I recall the TV in your living room was fairly large, and the seating close enough that you'd definitely be able to discern the pixels in 720p. It could be simply a matter of perception. Smaller TV will have smaller pixels, and watching it from farther away makes it look significantly sharper. There's a pretty small window of view distance recommended for TVs based on size and resolution.

I have the same issue in my living room with a 55" 1080p TV. It can look pretty muddy when watching U-verse HD channels (720p) from 7 feet away when you compare it to the 32" TV in our bedroom, which we watch from 10 feet away.

Another issue is the scaling problems when watching content on a 1080p TV that's not 1080p. It doesn't scale perfectly, and often there's a ratio/picture size adjustment setting in the TV menu options.

How does the quality look when gaming at true 1080p?
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
46597 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:29 pm to
Turn off all the extra picture items like motion compensation. Turn sharpness way down. Turn contrast down.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
46597 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:20 pm to
Try these calibration settings:


--Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 7
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 0
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50

Picture Size submenu:
Picture Size: Screen Fit
Position: [no change]

Auto Adjustment submenu: [Grayed out]

3D submenu: N/A

PIP: N/A

Advanced settings submenu:
Dynamic contrast: Off
Black tone: Off
Flesh tone: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color space: Custom
White Balance: [see below]
10p White Balance: On
Gamma: +1
Expert Pattern: Off
Motion Lighting: Off [grayed out]
Black Enhancer: Off

Color Space submenu:
Color Space: Custom
Red: Red 46, Green 0, Blue 1
Green: Red 4, Green 56, Blue 2
Blue: Red 3, Green 0, Blue 50
Yellow: Red 50, Green 50, Blue 2
Cyan: Red 6, Green 52, Blue 52
Magenta: Red 48, Green 0, Blue 50

White balance submenu:
R-Offset: 25
G-Offset: 26
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 22
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 26

10p White Balance submenu:
Interval 1: Red -1, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 2: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 3: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 4: Red +3, Green 0, Blue 0
Interval 5: Red +1, Green -1, Blue 0
Interval 6: Red 0, Green -2, Blue -1
Interval 7: Red 0, Green -2, Blue 0
Interval 8: Red -1, Green -2, Blue -1
Interval 9: Red 0, Green -1, Blue 0
Interval 10: Red 0, Green 0, Blue 0

Picture options submenu
Color tone: Warm2
Digital Clean View: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI black level: Normal [grayed out]
Film mode: Auto 1
Auto Motion Plus: Custom
Smart LED: Standard
Cinema Black: On

Auto Motion Plus submenu:
Blur reduction: 10
Judder reduction: 0
LED Clear Motion: On

-- System menu
Eco Solution submenu:
Energy Saving: Off
Eco Sensor: Off

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