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Charlton Athletic question
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:16 am
I have a friend in England who's a huge Charlton Athletic fan. I know nothing about European soccer. He's been messaging me lately that they have been doing well which has allowed them to stay safe and not get regulated. I just reply with that's great but have no idea what he's talking about.
A few questions and please excuse my ignorance:
- How would Charlton Athletic compare to college football? Would they be considered D1, D2 or lower level? I'm trying to figure out how large they are comparative to college football's divisional hierarchy (Hope this makes sense)
- What does it mean to "stay safe" and "not get regulated"
Thanks for any and all replies! Soccer is a great sport and I'm slowly trying to learn more about it.
A few questions and please excuse my ignorance:
- How would Charlton Athletic compare to college football? Would they be considered D1, D2 or lower level? I'm trying to figure out how large they are comparative to college football's divisional hierarchy (Hope this makes sense)
- What does it mean to "stay safe" and "not get regulated"
Thanks for any and all replies! Soccer is a great sport and I'm slowly trying to learn more about it.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:21 am to Palmetto08
Damn I remember when Valley was rocking
Danny Murphy
Danny Murphy
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:28 am to Palmetto08
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How would Charlton Athletic compare to college football? Would they be considered D1, D2 or lower level? I'm trying to figure out how large they are comparative to college football's divisional hierarchy (Hope this makes sense)
Football is organized in tiers, with teams being able to move up or down based on play over the course of a season. The best teams play in the Premier League. After that comes the Championship, then League 1, 2 and so on. Charlton are in the Championship, or the tier below the Premier League. It's hard to make the connection to American sports because we don't have a system like it.
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What does it mean to "stay safe" and "not get regulated"
So teams can move up or down by being promoted or relegated. By "staying safe", Charlton successfully avoided being relegated and dropping down into a lower tier. This is great because it allows you to be playing in the same league again the next season instead of a lower one filled with less talented teams.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:29 am to Palmetto08
English football has 4 leagues so using your college football analogy, premier league is nfl, the championship is division 1, league 1 is d2, league 2 is d3. Charlton are in the championship but only finished 7 pts from relegation (also it's relegation not regulation). This means they are a pretty crappy d1 team. Relegation means to be sent down a league so if they would have been relegated from the championship they would have played next season in league 1. Hope this helps, watch as much World Cup as you can and you will be fully hooked.
Well now you have 2 answers
Well now you have 2 answers
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:33 am to Palmetto08
England has 4 tiers in their professional football (soccer) configuration.
Over the course of my life, the names have changed frequently of these tiers, so it is very confusing.
But just think of them as Tiers 1, 2, 3, and 4.
There are 20 teams in Tier 1, and 24 teams in the remaining 3.
Each year, the bottom 3 teams are relegated from Tiers 1, 2, and 3 to the lower tier, and the top 3 teams are promoted from Tiers 2, 3, and 4 to the above tier.
Historically, the last team of the 4th Tier has been relegated out of the setup entirely, and another club is brought up into the 4th Tier from the Football League (a lower grouping of professional clubs).
Charlton is in the 2nd Tier- this past season they finished near the bottom, but not in the Bottom 3, so they were "safe" from relegation.
The confusing part is the renaming of these tiers. When I was growing up, they were easily called the First Division, Second Division, etc. In 1992, they re-named the 1st Division the "Premier League", the 2nd Division became the First Division, and so on. Now, they are calling the 1st Division (the old 2nd Division) the Championship, and the old 3rd Division became the 2nd Division, is now the 1st Division, and so on.
Hope this helps!
Over the course of my life, the names have changed frequently of these tiers, so it is very confusing.
But just think of them as Tiers 1, 2, 3, and 4.
There are 20 teams in Tier 1, and 24 teams in the remaining 3.
Each year, the bottom 3 teams are relegated from Tiers 1, 2, and 3 to the lower tier, and the top 3 teams are promoted from Tiers 2, 3, and 4 to the above tier.
Historically, the last team of the 4th Tier has been relegated out of the setup entirely, and another club is brought up into the 4th Tier from the Football League (a lower grouping of professional clubs).
Charlton is in the 2nd Tier- this past season they finished near the bottom, but not in the Bottom 3, so they were "safe" from relegation.
The confusing part is the renaming of these tiers. When I was growing up, they were easily called the First Division, Second Division, etc. In 1992, they re-named the 1st Division the "Premier League", the 2nd Division became the First Division, and so on. Now, they are calling the 1st Division (the old 2nd Division) the Championship, and the old 3rd Division became the 2nd Division, is now the 1st Division, and so on.
Hope this helps!
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:03 pm to Palmetto08
They were a scrappy team back in the alan curbishley era. I remember when some touted curbs as a sven replacement for england.
Dean kiely, matt fish, jason euell, herman hreidrrson. Scott parker was their best young player. Was also lee bowyers first club. The valley is a nice ground.
Basically they are playing with the mcneeses and youngstown states. If u want a d1 analogy, they have a nice history but have struggled lately and are trying to get back up...they were down in the third teir recently.
Guess you could compare them to a tulane or southern miss
Dean kiely, matt fish, jason euell, herman hreidrrson. Scott parker was their best young player. Was also lee bowyers first club. The valley is a nice ground.
Basically they are playing with the mcneeses and youngstown states. If u want a d1 analogy, they have a nice history but have struggled lately and are trying to get back up...they were down in the third teir recently.
Guess you could compare them to a tulane or southern miss
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:13 pm to Palmetto08
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How would Charlton Athletic compare to college football? Would they be considered D1, D2 or lower level?
Strictly aligning tiers: FCS
Realistically, probably more like shitty BCS
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:38 pm to Palmetto08
After we demolished West Ham late in 07, I thought for sure we were staying up.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:16 pm to Palmetto08
They talked a good amount of Charlton Athletic on talkSPORT yesterday. I enjoy hearing about the non-Prem clubs from time to time. Great radio station.
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