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re: Net Neutrality -- What You Need To Know

Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:49 pm to
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I listened to the entire No Agenda show, and just as I suspected they never even discussed what the debate is actually about. Their conclusion is that bandwidth costs money, and somebody has to pay for it. Yeah, no shite guys. They even suggest metered billing as some sort of solution, which is fine, but has absolutely no bearing on the topic of net neutrality.



Why should I subsidize you constantly streaming Netflix espn etc? That's what the cordcutters want...nothing but a bunch of leaches. It's like uninsured people showing up in the ER. It drives up the price for the rest of us. Same people who hate on this hate on data caps etc. why should I pay for you to torrent 20 movies?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Why should I subsidize you constantly streaming Netflix espn etc? That's what the cordcutters want...nothing but a bunch of leaches. It's like uninsured people showing up in the ER. It drives up the price for the rest of us. Same people who hate on this hate on data caps etc. why should I pay for you to torrent 20 movies?

the people who have abused the system seem to be the ones yelling the loudest. "power users" are a very, very small % of the market who use up an insane amount of bandwidth. they refuse to see the opposite spectrum of casual consumer use (which this theoretically will help a great deal)

power users are going to have to pay a lot more money for the internet the way they've been using it, and they're not happy

watch: ask them why we can't wait and see what happens. they will say it will be "too late" because the mass of consumers will have adopted to the new system and accepted it.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28745 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:18 pm to
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Why should I subsidize you constantly streaming Netflix espn etc? That's what the cordcutters want...nothing but a bunch of leaches. It's like uninsured people showing up in the ER. It drives up the price for the rest of us. Same people who hate on this hate on data caps etc. why should I pay for you to torrent 20 movies?

Let's get a few things straight here, first. Data caps and customer pricing have absolutely nothing to do with net neutrality. If an ISP feels the need to put caps and charge for overage, that's fine. It is a total rip-off for consumers, but it's still fine. If you feel that you are getting ripped off because others are getting more use out of their bandwidth than you are, then take it up with your ISP for not offering a level of service at a price you like, or for not charging heavy users more for their service. They can even go to metered billing, which is also fine as far as net neutrality is concerned (though there are a lot of other problems with metered internet billing).

Somehow you have been convinced that ISPs charging users extra for access to Netflix (or whatever) is the only solution. But, while it certainly would solve some issues with bandwidth constraints, it is absolutely the wrong way to go about it. The reasons why it is wrong and the problems it presents have been discussed already in this thread.

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