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re: Loston or Sunseri? smh...

Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:11 pm to
i see ST guys as 7th and UDFA types

5th should be guys still capable of possibly being starters. i mean ignore the saints...look at the 49ers and Seahawks to see why those pics are important. they build so much of their teams in those picks

and also, when we traded our 3rd rounder, the argument was "we'll make it up in the 5th". now i'm not hating on sunseri, but he's a very limited player who doesn't appear to have the physical skills to be a consistent NFL starter. even this board is resigned to him being a ST guy.

consistency is important

oh, and craig loston sucks in terms of NFL projections. if this were the 70s, he'd be a great player to draft. he can't cover and looks to literally knock heads off. he has negative ball skills
Posted by bonethug0108
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:11 pm to
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i see ST guys as 7th and UDFA types
Then you'd be disappointed in most 4th, 5th and 6th rounders. Most of those guys are career backups and special teamers.

Sure you can get good guys late, but those are either flyers or gems(Carl Nicks would be the first and Jahri Evans would be the second). Teams don't draft most of these guys expecting them to be starters(some of the flyers sure). You always hope they can, but that isn't the expectation.

1st rounders are expected to be your foundation. Most are expected to start right away or play big roles. Some teams will take someone a little more raw with extremely high upside and those guys may sit a year but are still expected to become a foundational player.

2nd rounders are expected to be starters(some immediate, some within the first couple of years).

3rd rounders are expected to be role players and/or part time starters(either immediate or within the first couple of years).

4th rounders are expected to be capable backups and/or core special teamers(flyers here could be expected to start or be role players).

5th rounders are expected to be special teamers and possible backups(a few flyers may have starting or role player aspirations).

6th rounders are expected to be special team hopefuls with backup aspirations(flyers here could become role players).

7th rounders are mostly flyer picks and special team fillers.

UDFAs expectations range between 5th-7th(because of the difference in teams boards and roster needs the range is wide).

Now of course that is the expectations of the rounds. That's not what always happens and everyone is hoping for gems and that their flyer picks pan out.

If you look at our picks, they all fall pretty much in line with the expectations.

Cooks is expected to be a foundational player.

Jean-Baptiste is expected to be a starter, most likely as soon as next year.

Fortt was a flyer pick in the 4th and is expected to be a core special teamer and possible replacement for Hawthorne in a part time starting role.

Sunseri is a bit of a flyer pick, but more of a safer 5th rounder. He is expected to be a special teamer and could eventually become a backup when Bush leaves.

Powell was a flyer pick and is expected to be a special teamer and potential backup to Haralson.

Rooks, being an offensive lineman, is expected to have more backup aspirations as all Olinemen really are used for on special teams is blocking. He will compete with Harris and Jones for a backup tackle spot.

If you are expecting more from these picks than your expectations are out of line. Hope is a different matter.

We've gotten spoiled by our late round offensive picks. That is not the norm.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279492 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:04 pm to
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i see ST guys as 7th and UDFA types

5th should be guys still capable of possibly being starters.



Agreed. I honestly don't know what some people on this board think. Sunseri at worst will be a ST player, but i think he has the measurables to help us on defense.
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