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45 Shot over Easter weekend in gun free Chicago
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:27 pm
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Six children amongst 45 people shot in Chicago during bloody Easter weekend
Of the 45 people shot, nine were killed
Five children were shot as they were walking home from a playground
Someone in a vehicle that passed the children asked if they were in a particular gang before one of them started shooting
Police recovered 23 shell casings from the scene of the shooting
The children ranged in age from 11 to 15
So far this year 85 people have been murdered in Chicago
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What is the gun-banners excuse, they always say well they can get the guns from other areas, if you extrapolate this then only a planet wide ban could work right?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:33 pm to LordSaintly
If they would start shooting the right people they could make a dent in their public pension problem.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:34 pm to Strannix
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What is the gun-banners excuse, they always say well they can get the guns from other areas, if you extrapolate this then only a planet wide ban could work right?
gotcha covered on the SECRant Off Topic Board
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Chicago's problem isn't tight regulation, it's that surrounding areas don't have tight regulation, too. I believe a sizable minority of guns (40%+) seized in Chicago were purchased outside the city. Which is why people support federal regulation of firearms.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:38 pm to Alahunter
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Chicago's problem isn't tight regulation, it's that surrounding areas don't have tight regulation, too.
What about the areas surrounding those areas, and the areas around those areas etc. etc. ????/
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:39 pm to Alahunter
Let me guess. 99% black on black violence?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:39 pm to Strannix
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they always say well they can get the guns from other areas
This will always be the excuse and they will harp on it until the cows come home.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:40 pm to Alahunter
Human trafficking is illegal and a huge problem around the entire world. It's illegal everywhere and yet it still exists in every city in this country. If you can't stop that, you can't stop hand guns. I wish the libs would just give it a rest. At least come out and say you want total control and stop treating us like idiots.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:41 pm to ASTL
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Let me guess. 99% black on black violence?
Seems low.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:42 pm to ASTL
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Let me guess. 99% black on black violence?
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop trying to distract us from the real issue - scared white folks that cling to their guns and Bibles.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:43 pm to mooseknuckle
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Human trafficking is illegal and a huge problem around the entire world. It's illegal everywhere and yet it still exists in every city in this country. If you can't stop that, you can't stop hand guns. I wish the libs would just give it a rest. At least come out and say you want total control and stop treating us like idiots.
Even better, Mexico has some of the most strict gun control laws in the world. Lot of good that does. If we banned/confiscated from law abiding citizens here, we'd still have gun crime, possibly more.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:43 pm to Alahunter
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fricking Wheelroute

Glad I exited that thread early.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:44 pm to Alahunter
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(40%+) seized in Chicago were purchased outside the city.
So how do they explain the majority of the guns seized?

This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:46 pm to Strannix
So the areas with guns don't have these kinds of problems but the area without guns do... Hmmmm...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:47 pm to cokebottleag
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Even better, Mexico has some of the most strict gun control laws in the world. Lot of good that does
The argument is there is that we have guns in the US so they are readily available in Mexico. This is essentially the same argument. The estimated 100,000+ dead along the border is, acording to those making the argument, essentially the fault of Joe Six-pack who supports the 2nd amendment.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:01 pm to Alahunter
So if the biggest problem in Chicago regarding gun control is the fact that surrounding areas do not have equal restrictions, then What the frick do you think will happen to this country if Chicagos restrictions were nationwide?
Maybe criminals just don't follow the law?
Maybe criminals just don't follow the law?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:08 pm to Chimlim
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So if the biggest problem in Chicago regarding gun control is the fact that surrounding areas do not have equal restrictions, then What the frick do you think will happen to this country if Chicagos restrictions were nationwide?
Better question, IMO, is "Then, WHY aren't those "surrounding areas" as dangerous?
It is like saying that POISON came through osmosis into our pristine area...but, our area is MORE poisonous than the outside.
I would understand if 'Outside of Chicago' was at "Danger zone 10" and thus, Chicago is at "Danger Zone 7"..but, would otherwise be only at "3".
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:25 pm to Strannix
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they always say well they can get the guns from other areas
This is true, it's not really effective to ban guns in one municipality if people can just go over to the neighboring municipality to acquire guns.
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then only a planet wide ban could work right?
You wouldn't have to ban guns where none exist/are produced. Who are the world's largest producers of firearms? The US? Russia? Yes, if you banned gun sales by US manufacturers, and you banned gun imports to the US, you would have the demand met with black market imports from arms producing countries. I suspect that the demand would exceed supply, so there would probably be a major price increase over what we see now. Would this be enough to stem gun violence in the US? Maybe. Would it be as effective as nationwide Constitutional Carry laws? Who knows. There isn't enough data.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:34 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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This is true, it's not really effective to ban guns in one municipality if people can just go over to the neighboring municipality to acquire guns.
This premise still relies on the notion that criminals will "do the right thing" and turn in their guns. I don't expect that to happen.
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