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re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:25 am to DanTiger
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:25 am to DanTiger
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I clearly understand it and I also understand that we have the most comfortable living standards on this planet. There will not be any sort of rebellion until the pain threshold of the people is surpassed. In reality that means that the rebellion would no longer generate worse living conditions thn exist in the countries present state. Do you believe we are anywhere close to that?
Um. I don't buy your theory. Would anyone argue that Russia, immediately post USSR was in "less pain" than before?
How bout Nazi Germany? Were they in less pain after their government led them to war than before?
I suspect that when our government finally reaches the end it is most certainly on the road to, that what comes after will such MUCH more than what came right before.
And, it will happen because the vast majority of Americans(again understandably) will just continue hoping the gravy train will continue until they're 6 feet under so that they don't have to experience the pain themselves.
Oh. And by the way, I don't mean to sound harsh, but what I just said is REALLY what you are describing. If our nation folds painfully(and I think it will), then it will affect someone in your progeny. Maybe not your kids. Maybe your grandkids. But, alas, you wont be here to witness it, so it doesn't scare you. Again, I understand that. I just want to clarify that is the reality.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:28 am to ShortyRob
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Oh. And by the way, I don't mean to sound harsh, but what I just said is REALLY what you are describing. If our nation folds painfully(and I think it will), then it will affect someone in your progeny. Maybe not your kids. Maybe your grandkids. But, alas, you wont be here to witness it, so it doesn't scare you. Again, I understand that. I just want to clarify that is the reality.
By the time there are people alive who feel like the threat is upon them BEFORE they manage to die, it will be too late to do anything about it other than to wait for the pain.
This is a historical reality. Rarely has there been an exception.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:33 am to ShortyRob
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Um. I don't buy your theory. Would anyone argue that Russia, immediately post USSR was in "less pain" than before?
They were on much more equal footing during the end of the Soviet reign and the beginning of Russian "freedom" in relation to living conditions compared to where we are now and the life of a revolutionary.
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How bout Nazi Germany? Were they in less pain after their government led them to war than before?
I am not sure how this ties in. There was no revolution in Germany that lead them to war.
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Oh. And by the way, I don't mean to sound harsh, but what I just said is REALLY what you are describing. If our nation folds painfully(and I think it will), then it will affect someone in your progeny. Maybe not your kids. Maybe your grandkids. But, alas, you wont be here to witness it, so it doesn't scare you. Again, I understand that. I just want to clarify that is the reality.
Of course what we have now will end as nothing lasts but to worry about when it will happen is a waste of time and there is nothing we can do about it. I care about the things that I can control and that is the life of my family. I hope the lives of my ancestors are as wonderful as the lives we lead but that is not something I have direct control over and to worry about it is a foolish waste of time in my opinion.
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