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Tahj Jones incident and state of LSU program
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:54 pm
It seems with the recent tragedy that some pundits / blogs are trying to connect this incident to the state of the LSU football program (bringing up recent issues with Brazil, Mathieu, Hill, Jefferson, etc.), even though the two men involved in this case are no longer student-athletes (the shooter being 13 years removed from LSU).
A thread like this has been started some time ago related to SEC programs and arrest numbers, but I thought I'd tie in to the discussion of the Jones shooting and update the stats.
Here's the number of arrest/citations from 2010 to date (per arrestnation.com):
Missouri - 20
Georgia - 19
Florida - 16
Tennessee - 16
TX A&M - 15
Ole Miss - 14
Arkansas - 13
Kentucky - 12
Alabama - 11
Auburn - 10
S. Carolina - 9
LSU - 6 (Mathieu not included b/c his arrest came post-LSU)
Miss St. - 6
Vandy - 3
The perception (in media and forums) seems to be that LSU leads the SEC in such incidents -- mainly due to the high profile cases (Hill, Jefferson, Mathieu), I suppose. But the facts seem to indicate otherwise.
A thread like this has been started some time ago related to SEC programs and arrest numbers, but I thought I'd tie in to the discussion of the Jones shooting and update the stats.
Here's the number of arrest/citations from 2010 to date (per arrestnation.com):
Missouri - 20
Georgia - 19
Florida - 16
Tennessee - 16
TX A&M - 15
Ole Miss - 14
Arkansas - 13
Kentucky - 12
Alabama - 11
Auburn - 10
S. Carolina - 9
LSU - 6 (Mathieu not included b/c his arrest came post-LSU)
Miss St. - 6
Vandy - 3
The perception (in media and forums) seems to be that LSU leads the SEC in such incidents -- mainly due to the high profile cases (Hill, Jefferson, Mathieu), I suppose. But the facts seem to indicate otherwise.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:55 pm to gabzooks
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Vandy - 3
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:57 pm to gabzooks
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:58 pm to gabzooks
quote:I mean. I guess you could move one of these to lsu
Georgia - 19
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:00 am to gabzooks
Got damn, we got work to do in order to catch up.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:44 am to gabzooks
These incidents are mostly related to the background of individual players and the people they hang out with, has little to do with the state of athletic program at a given school.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:40 am to gabzooks
I haven't read or seen any reputable places saying LSU is some kind of breeding ground for criminal activity like you're saying
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:48 am to gabzooks
Bookmarked for future use on the SEC rant
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:22 am to gabzooks
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The perception (in media and forums) seems to be that LSU leads the SEC in such incidents
no. I will argue that that is YOUR perception of THE perception. other schools think THE perception is about their schools. the thing is that there really is no universal perception as perception really involves the complex elements of bias.
however, THE perception of college football (and basketball and pro football and basketball as well) is that thugs are welcome to play. what feeds this perception is fact; shootings, stabbings, rape, robbery, etc. There is an unusually high number of felony's committed by athletes of certain sports (football and basketball). this is FACT. just compare with other athletes and society as a whole. i'm simply stating facts not launching any tirades about anything. so call me a racist, call me an old cynic, call me anything you want. i'm not talking dui's here, i'm talking crimes against others and it happens everywhere in every program.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:48 am to gabzooks
If it says anything about LSU, it is that Miles is not afraid to put his SUPERSTARS ahead of anyone else. When you have high profile players being kicked off the team, it always draws more attention than the walk on who is kicked off the team.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:40 am to gabzooks
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even though the two men involved in this case are no longer student-athletes (the shooter being 13 years removed from LSU).
Saban's thuggish players >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mile's players
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:50 am to gabzooks
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Here's the number of arrest/citations from 2010 to date (per arrestnation.com):
Missouri - 20
Georgia - 19
Florida - 16
Tennessee - 16
TX A&M - 15
Ole Miss - 14
So do we re-name the Fulmer Cup the "Pinkel Cup"?
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:28 am to gabzooks
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The perception (in media and forums) seems to be that LSU leads the SEC in such incidents
not really.
florida, tennessee and especially georgia get more talk in the national media.
hell, tennessee inspired the fulmer cup.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:44 am to gabzooks
And ya'll didn't think Missouri was a good fit for the SEC
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:10 am to gabzooks
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mainly due to the high profile cases (Hill, Jefferson, Mathieu)
Bingo
Yes we arent as bad as other schools, but when some of your best players are getting in trouble it's bad news.
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