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re: Charles Koch in the WSJ

Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:28 pm to
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only when we do things like finance campaign laws do we make it corrupt


there are these things called jails

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It should simply be absolutely transparent with no limits.


With no limits to spending then person A can buy all the "speech" he wants, effectively drowning out the speech of everyone else around him who can't buy that much "speech". It gives him unequal access and favor and makes his vote inherently more valuable than anyone else's. If you think that that's a good thing then I guess that's you're right but to me it will create an oligarchic class that will result in a very small number of people holding the vast majority of political power. The republic will essentially be dead.

It's already been happening for awhile but it's going to speed up big time in the coming years between Citizens United and this decision today. Dark days indeed.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32683 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:32 pm to
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With no limits to spending then person A can buy all the "speech" he wants, effectively drowning out the speech of everyone else around him who can't buy that much "speech".


So to fix this, Fedgov restricts person A's speech.

Brilliant
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 8:34 pm to
here's a hint champ...if there is not as much power at fedgov, they won't spend the money there.

your solution is akin to trying to stop drug deals by removing money from society. It doesn't stop any of the backdoor bullshite.

either you're exceedingly naive, or stupid.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 9:13 pm to
If you want to take money or of politics, limit the powers of the federal government. A powerful government only plays into the hands of those who have the money too wield the power. A small government with a very simple tax code and simple, transparent laws can't be manipulated in secret.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5205 posts
Posted on 4/2/14 at 10:10 pm to
in other words "there shall be the right to infringe on the freedom of speech"
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:29 am to
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With no limits to spending then person A can buy all the "speech" he wants, effectively drowning out the speech of everyone else around him who can't buy that much "speech". It gives him unequal access and favor and makes his vote inherently more valuable than anyone else's.
The 1A is about FREE speech. Not fairness.

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If you think that that's a good thing then I guess that's you're right but to me it will create an oligarchic class that will result in a very small number of people holding the vast majority of political power. The republic will essentially be dead.
Odd assertion. For the majority of our Republic's existence, no limits have been imposed.
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