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re: Decline of the African American family - article

Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:55 am to
Posted by recruitnik
Campus
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:55 am to
The problem with the way this is discussed is in your pulled quote.

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if we are ever to focus on children who, for no fault of their own


Yet when you impose "help" by threat of punishment (taking benefits, subsidies, etc away) you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.

If that cannot be understood first, the conversation cannot take place.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262892 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:58 am to
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Yet when you impose "help" by threat of punishment (taking benefits, subsidies, etc away) you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.



So, you're assumption is that these people are incapable of earning a decent wage on their own through cognitive or physical limitations?

The system is built to be a poverty trap. It's a widely accepted social term. The solution to poverty isn't through entitlements, which creates the trap. It's through investment that creates employment.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47804 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 12:00 pm to
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you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.


Cap the # of kids the taxpayers support at 3 and you would see some people at least attempting to be more responsible. Since most of these "dads" aren't pulling their weight in society and living off the government tit also how about we cut their subsidies and give it to the kid then the drain on the public is a net 0.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
15022 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Yet when you impose "help" by threat of punishment (taking benefits, subsidies, etc away) you have a direct, adverse affect on those same children.

If that cannot be understood first, the conversation cannot take place.


And this is exactly the point in the conversation that will never allow this problem to be solved.

Tell us about all of the good we are doing to the children under the present system.

And then act like if the government didn't subsidize their irresponsible behavior and unhealthy lifestyles then they and their children would all starve to death and have to live on the street or under the bridge because that's what 100 years of indoctrination of statism has done to the people of this country. No one can imagine a solution without it going through the government. That's the mental disorder most people have.
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