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re: Fwiw, Kiper's latest mock draft released today

Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:03 am to
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:03 am to
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Calvin Johnson, Fitz, Josh Gordon, Dez, Roddy White, VJax, AJ80, Demaryius Thomas etc.


so you have to be an elite receiver to be a true #1? come on people. Colston must not be a #1 than, because he sure as hell isn't elite. Yea he was pretty damn good, but he wasn't elite. All those guys you listed are elite.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:21 am to
There are like 20 "elite" WRs and TEs... So not really elite when most teams have one

The saints already have one.

Anyway, the point is you are getting the same value at WR in the 2nd round. It's not a bad thing. That 2nd round WR talent may be the sickest it's ever been.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:26 am to
show me a 5'10 or 5'11" WR you'd take over any of those guys
Posted by higgsBoson
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:04 am to
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so you have to be an elite receiver to be a true #1? come on people. Colston must not be a #1 than, because he sure as hell isn't elite. Yea he was pretty damn good, but he wasn't elite. All those guys you listed are elite.


Exactly. To me a WR #1 is a guy who can run any WR route effectively. Colston in his prime could run short routes, WR screens, down the middle, along the sidelines, jump ball in the end zone, streaks down the field, etc. Elite players can run all these routes at a high level. Colston was never there but could at least competently run all these routes. At his age he can't, which is why we have no true #1 WR.

Having said that, I don't see who we can get at 27 that can do that.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:52 am to
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so you have to be an elite receiver to be a true #1


Are we arguing about the ambiguity of WR1 and you bring up "elite"?

JM2C:
Not all teams have a WR1 when used in scouting terms, sometimes it's WR by Committee such as we have had the last 7 years. WR1 in depth chart terms doesn't really mean anything.
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