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re: Saints Talk Draft Project: The Dirty Dozen for #27

Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:21 am to
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:21 am to
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When he's 5'10" and our other WR opposite of him is barely 6 feet and we gotta play a secondary like the Seahawks, etc in the playoffs in the coming years, yeah, yeah I would say he would be.
Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin, and Percy Harvin just won a super bowl. None of them are even 6 ft. Tate was also the only one over 200 lbs. at 202.

Plus I think the beat Seattle's holding secondary you need speed, not strength. The goal is to be faster than these big, physical, holding guys, not stronger. If they can't touch you they can't hold you.

Ask Denver how there big receiving threats worked out.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64651 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Ask Denver how there big receiving threats worked out


Spot on.

As everyone knows I've been pimpin ad nauseam explosive YAC WR's or RB's with some wiggle and speed for this offence.

Its coming!
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:24 pm to
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Ask Denver how there big receiving threats worked out.



Which SEA WR would you trade for Demaryius Thomas?
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:45 pm to
First, Seattle has something we don't which was huge for them..Marshawn Lynch. None of our RBs come even close to that. Kind of like our passing game in recent years is equivalent to their running game, and vice versa. They have stud(s) at their respective unit and so do we, and the other unit it made up of misfit toys more or less. Seattle never really relied on the passing game because that wasn't who they were.

The only teams Seattle played last year with a secondary remotely equivalent to Seattle's were the Cardinals and 49ers. In the 5 games they played against those teams Wilson threw a whopping 25 times a game for 177 yards and a 54% completion percentage, but in those same games Seatlle averaged 30 rushes for 122 yards and 1 TD per game...that's not gonna fly for the Saints, that's just not the way they play football. I think you could argue Seattle won the SB IN SPITE of their WR core.

I really do think Seattle's WRs are the anomaly, that's not something teams should strive to copy for because Seattle had such an exceptional run game and defense it masked it. And I know your point about a WR like D. Thomas falling to 26 Bur you don't know. If I'm not mistaken he was taken in the 20s of his draft. You also kinda discredited your own point about needing speed and not size to beat teams like Seattle when you went on to say Thomas was the only Denver WR who played well. What about Welker? I think you're underestimating Seattles speed at all levels of the defense, that's why they were so good. They protected the field endzone to endzone, sideline to sideline better than any team in football. I don't think speed is the answer, because if you make one guys miss, there's a few more a couple of yards away waiting, usually.

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree, but I definitely see yalls point. I personally would just rather a big, physical threat who can exchange blows with these bigger corners and safeties and come out on top.
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