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re: The Anti-Science Advocates have won: Measles Outbreak in NYC
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:29 am to Volvagia
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:29 am to Volvagia
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You seem to know a thing or two about epidemiology so it's curious that you added this fact in spite of being illrelevant.
It's like arguing that Ebola isn't really that bad because .00000000000000001 Americans die from it.
That's lower than the rate of amusement park deaths!
Even today, with all of the supportive care and nutrition, mortality of measles is around .1%
Yes, it's still low.
But it is so rediciously easy and cheap to prevent that even that one out of a 1000 is too high.
All of this processes through my mind, I think the same things, I understand where you're coming from.
There is meaning to the .0002% figure. I followed it with the fact that more people died from diabetes each year when we started to vaccinate for measles.
That should make one wonder why such drastic measures are taken to eliminate measles while the diet that brings on diabetes is encouraged through advertising and enabled through farm subsidies that make junk food cheaper.
When we vaccinate for measles we may lower and already low death rate, but we're removing a natural process and herd immunity approach that was working quite well for our species. The natural process brought the death rate down to well under 1%, why would we disrupt and reverse the progress of this natural process?
It also must be said that living conditions can shoulder some blame for these outbreaks. In densely populated, low income areas this is going to spread faster. It's why the northeast has lots of dots on the OPs map. We have progressed a great deal as a society, but since the recent financial fallout in 2008 conditions have aided an environment suitable for virus's to spread. Fittingly, these measles outbreak scares started around 2008.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 12:34 am
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:51 am to Sleeping Tiger
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That should make one wonder why such drastic measures are taken to eliminate measles while the diet that brings on diabetes is encouraged through advertising and enabled through farm subsidies that make junk food cheaper.
Killing yourself vs. killing your child
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