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re: New group enters fray on future of EBR school system. Seeks new legislation.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:40 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:40 am to LSURussian
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This is the MAPP guy, right?
Is this group promoting the new idea of quartering the district?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:48 am to Antonio Moss
quote:WTF are you talking about??
That simply isn't true. The Federal Mandate only dealt with student enrollment numbers. It has nothing to do with the micromanagement of schools, administrative structure of the board, etc.
That's a cop-out.
Where students went to school and the resources allocated at each school absolutely had to be approved by the judge handling the lawsuit. That was the whole issue of the deseg suit and what created forced busing in EBR. ETA: The forced busing is what drove white kids out of public schools into private schools in EBR. And that is what destroyed the EBR school system.
Who gives a f*ck if the board could order blue pencils rather than yellow pencils? Or, if the school board had 3 committees rather than 4?
If that is your idea of the school board having local control, then I can't help you.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:49 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Did you read the link to the newspaper article I provided in the OP? That's all the information available at this point.
Is this group promoting the new idea of quartering the district?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:53 am to LSURussian
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Where students went to school and the resources allocated at each school absolutely had to be approved by the judge handling the lawsuit.
Which is separate from the micromanagement of schools and administrative structure, among other areas of management.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:54 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Your statement is irrelevant to the point of what destroyed the EBR school system. The fed government was running the school system in the areas that mattered to parents keeping their kids in the public school system.
Which is separate from the micromanagement of schools and administrative structure, among other areas of management.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:57 am to LSURussian
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Did you read the link to the newspaper article I provided in the OP?
Yes. Hence why I was asking if anyone knew any further detail.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:59 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:58 am to LSURussian
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Your statement is irrelevant to the point of what destroyed the EBR school system.
I didn't deny that deseg had a huge impact on the destruction of the system. But the Board is not absolved from blame for four decades of incompetence simply because of the deseg order. There have been numerous issues with EBR's schools that don't stem from deseg.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:58 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Nothing new nor old.....
if anyone new any further detail.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:59 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Name three.
There have been numerous issues with EBR's schools that don't stem from deseg.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:04 am to LSURussian
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Name three.
1) Ineffective teacher promotion/tenure process
2) Substandard gifted/magnet program
3) Improper oversight of independent school administration teams
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:07 am to LSURussian
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Name three.
I can't name any, I agree with you here Russian.
Desegregation and the results of the desegregation lawsuit; have affected everything in the system since the Judge took over the schools.
I also agree with you that it was a great day that the system got back total control.
I also believe it will be a great day if the system ever becomes a good system (A B average).
We just disagree on a SG school system.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:10 am to Antonio Moss
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1) Ineffective teacher promotion/tenure process
How does the EBR teacher promotion process differ from any other school district in Louisiana? The same for the state-law required protections for long-term teachers?
quote:That's laughable. There is a waiting list for both the magnet and GT programs. Both of those programs are highly successful, unless you believe BRMHS and McKinley HS are failing to educate the magnet and GT students attending them.
2) Substandard gifted/magnet program
quote:I have zero idea what you are referring to here. What independent administration teams are you referring to?
3) Improper oversight of independent school administration teams
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:11 am to Antonio Moss
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) Ineffective teacher promotion/tenure process
The deseg suit led to many poor teachers and principals entering the system.
quote:
2) Substandard gifted/magnet program
I think our magnet system is a direct result of the Feds and is a very good system. It may be too small now, but it's a plus.
quote:
3) Improper oversight of independent school administration teams
I don't know enough to comment on this.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:59 am to LSURussian
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I googled and couldn't find anything on that. Can you?
I don't think it was reported on, but it's in the judicial system. Appears to have been a technicality.
LINK
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:02 pm to Asgard Device
Thanks, but I ain't reading all that. Cliff Notes?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:04 pm to Antonio Moss
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Is this group promoting the new idea of quartering the district?
Technically, I think it is different. BRAC is pushing the 'new' local control idea. That seems to be different than the 'old' quartering idea that Bodi White is pushing; which is different than the St. George independent school district push.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:25 pm to BigJim
quote:The new group proposing new legislation is not affiliated with BRAC.
BRAC is pushing the 'new' local control idea.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:38 pm to doubleb
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It may be too small now.
It's absolutely too small and it sucks a considerable amount of resources in comparison to other schools so its a doubled edged sword.
Yes, BRHS and the three magnet elementary schools are great schools, but they exist to the detriment of other local schools and do not have enough to space to accommodate all qualified students.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:48 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:From today's Advocate
BRHS and the three magnet elementary schools are great schools,.....and do not have enough to space to accommodate all qualified students.
quote:So I assume you would vote in favor of a new tax to expand the GT and magnet programs in EBR???
The East Baton Rouge Parish School Board discussed the need Monday to expand its magnet, gifted and talented, and especially its pre-kindergarten programs, but came up empty when talk turned to where the district would find the funding and space for such an expansion.
Taylor hinted that a new tax might be the ultimate solution.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:50 pm to LSURussian
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So I assume you would vote in favor of a new tax to expand the GT and magnet programs in EBR???
Nope.
I'm in favor of dismantling the EBR School Board and moving to smaller, independent school districts.
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