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re: Why is the tank off?

Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:00 pm to
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The problem is assuming that you can get any value for Gordon (or even not take a shite contract in return) and/or he opts out.


When AD gets his extension we'll only have AD, Holiday, Tyreke, Rivers and a Ryno cap hold on the books. If you dump Rivers (maybe bring him back with the cap room exception) you'd have enough cap space to go after a $10 - $12 million starter. It's far from ideal, but if the goal is to add another $10 millionish player to the mix they can do it.

There's also the question of is the goal to add another $10 millionish player to the mix. That seems pretty unsustainable unless everyone else are on minimum or rookie deals. A better strategy might be adding slowly with the MLE.

Offseason of 2016 with Gordon off the books

Davis $17
Holiday $11
Ryno $10.6 (25% raise)
Tyreke $10.2
Ariza $5.5 (2014 MLE)
Koufos $5.1 (2015 MLE)
SF or Post scorer $5 (2016 MLE)
Rivers $4.2
Morrow $2.2 (2014 BAE)
2015 1st $1.5
Ajinca $1.2
Withey $1.2
Pierre Jackson $1.2
2016 1st $1.2

This is a pretty complete and balanced roster but it also would probably be slightly over the tax threshold, which makes me think adding another $10 millionish player to the mix may not be part of the plan. If it's not part of the plan, then the MLE should be in the salary range of the players we would be targeting anyway, we just can't fill both the 3 and 5 holes in the same offseason.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15322 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:04 pm to
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When AD gets his extension we'll only have AD, Holiday, Tyreke, Rivers and a Ryno cap hold on the books. If you dump Rivers (maybe bring him back with the cap room exception) you'd have enough cap space to go after a $10 - $12 million starter. It's far from ideal, but if the goal is to add another $10 millionish player to the mix they can do it.

There's also the question of is the goal to add another $10 millionish player to the mix. That seems pretty unsustainable unless everyone else are on minimum or rookie deals. A better strategy might be adding slowly with the MLE.

Offseason of 2016 with Gordon off the books

Davis $17
Holiday $11
Ryno $10.6 (25% raise)
Tyreke $10.2
Ariza $5.5 (2014 MLE)
Koufos $5.1 (2015 MLE)
SF or Post scorer $5 (2016 MLE)
Rivers $4.2
Morrow $2.2 (2014 BAE)
2015 1st $1.5
Ajinca $1.2
Withey $1.2
Pierre Jackson $1.2
2016 1st $1.2

This is a pretty complete and balanced roster but it also would probably be slightly over the tax threshold, which makes me think adding another $10 millionish player to the mix may not be part of the plan. If it's not part of the plan, then the MLE should be in the salary range of the players we would be targeting anyway, we just can't fill both the 3 and 5 holes in the same offseason.



I think that's probably more likely than just offloading Gordon. Now, with that said, what do you think his value will be at that point? As much as some may hate the idea, if we can resign him to a reasonable deal, it may be worth bringing him back.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:25 pm to
ATL thoughts on this? (My math might be a bit off)

Assuming we keep EG

Smiht/Roberts/Steam/AFA off the books(We'd be at 47 Mil) I'll assume cap is at 62ish MIL

Roster:
Jrue/Rivers
EG/Morrow
Tyreke/Babbit/Miller
AD/Ryno
Ajinca/Withey

Sign someone like Gortat or maybe Hawes for 7-8 Mil

Sign a 3 to start(If they indeed decide to keep tyreke on the bench)

Someone like Ariza to a 4 year 25 Mil deal(similar to what webster/korver got)

That'd put us at 59ish MIL with:

Jrue/Rivers
EG/Morrow
Ariza/Tyreke/Babbit
AD/Ryno/Withey
Gortat/Ajinca

That's a pretty complete team and if we got rid EG so much the better.




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