re: Convince me LoL is better than dota2

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DotA 2 is harder

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Dota 2 isn't harder than league, maybe more cumbersome. There is a lot more game knowledge to learn in Dota, but point and click CC/Death isn't hard.

To me a MOBA game comes down to it's Hero/Champ pool and League's is just more interesting. Also Dota 2's abilites don't scale with items (with a few exceptions) which is lame.

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Cast animation time, attack time both forward and back swing, projectile speed, turn rates, tower aggro control.

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I dont know which of these u dont think is in league of legends?

Towers are a much bigger force in leagues than they are in dota

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I want to add this video, it's especially useful if you play a hero reliant on spells.

This is next level info that is easy to understand.

LINK

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that definitely helped

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Cast animation time, attack time both forward and back swing, projectile speed, turn rates, tower aggro control. I could go on. It's harder.

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The vast majority of damage in fights comes from auto attacks across a huge percentage of the champs in Dota2. Mechanically, that's not nearly as hard as say a Yasuo, Lee Sin, Zed, Elise, Syndra, Viktor, etc.

The outplay-ability of champs like Vayne and Zed are what make League shine in my opinion. Now obviously you can't just walk up to 5 people and kill them, but you can work around a gold difference or health disadvantage with mechanics and good skill management. Combat in League is much more involved, IMO.

ETA: Just as a side note, towers are a joke in dota2 compared to League's.

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Just as a side note, towers are a joke in dota2 compared to League's.

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This is probably the biggest reason why LoL pro matches are so passive and boring to watch and why it takes forever for first blood to hit. Regular matches aren't much better.

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The vast majority of damage in fights comes from auto attacks across a huge percentage of the champs in Dota2. Mechanically, that's not nearly as hard as say a Yasuo, Lee Sin, Zed, Elise, Syndra, Viktor, etc.

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The damage to health ratio in dota 2 is much smaller than in LoL. Bad positioning is punished much harder in dota. Spells and magic damage is the biggest determination of how team fights go in the early and mid game, and believe it or not even though the average level 4 spell only does 300 damage, it still has a huge impact because like I said, the health to damage ratio is much smaller. Team fights are much faster paced for this reason and you can wreck based on skill. LoL is too heavily based on mitigation and linear progression of character power with weak clickable effects on items. You buy items mainly for linear stat increases.

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The outplay-ability of champs like Vayne and Zed are what make League shine in my opinion. Now obviously you can't just walk up to 5 people and kill them, but you can work around a gold difference or health disadvantage with mechanics and good skill management. Combat in League is much more involved, IMO.

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DotA combat is far more about skill timing and resource management. Combat in league is about blowing through your spells as soon as they are off cooldown.

League of legends laning snowballs so hard in one direction it isn't even funny.

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One of the biggest things going against Dota2 for me. I really wanted to give Dota2 a real shot, but I had to play ELEVEN games before I finally got a game where everyone was still present at the end of it. Not a good ratio.

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Most people that say this haven't played many games at all and are playing with people that are playing for the first few times and quit at the first sign of adversity. I haven't had a leaver in a game in months. I could make a smurf account in LoL and play 20 games, and half of them or more would have a leaver.

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I tried playing League again because I really love Cho'Gath. In the past 5 games, every single one ended in a surrender where zero inhibitors were destroyed. How is that any better?

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I've won probably a few hundred games in DotA that would have ended with my team surrendering around the 20 minute mark if that feature was implemented. Comebacks happen all the time which is great.

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League of legends laning snowballs so hard in one direction it isn't even funny.

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snowball in DOTA is even worse, because you lose gold for deaths

if you are getting snowballed on you can have games where u never even get to buy 1 item over 3k gold

Snowballing has nothing to do with losing gold on death. I can die 3 times to a double ranged long lane in dota 2 and still be able to farm effectively or at least leech exp and stay in the game. A lot of that has to do with the map design and how there are many places to hide off the center of the lanes.

Summoner's rift is a simplified symmetrical map with simple lanes where you have to stand in one spot to accomplish anything. Give up first blood to vayne top and your game is over.

And I've seen plenty of pro matches to know that theyre passive farm fests. The whole entire map ends up being warded and ganking is punished because its not profitable compared to farming a wave of creeps. On top of this, the lack of a mechanic to get around the map quickly further detracts ganks from happening. Sure you can get the teleport summoner spell but what good is that crap on a huge cooldown. Blue pill doesn't count either because that is a one way ticket back to base. It doesn't allow you to get straight back to farming after a failed gank attempt.

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Snowballing has nothing to do with losing gold on death. I can die 3 times to a double ranged long lane in dota 2 and still be able to farm effectively or at least leech exp and stay in the game. A lot of that has to do with the map design and how there are many places to hide off the center of the lanes.

Summoner's rift is a simplified symmetrical map with simple lanes where you have to stand in one spot to accomplish anything. Give up first blood to vayne top and your game is over.

And I've seen plenty of pro matches to know that theyre passive farm fests. The whole entire map ends up being warded and ganking is punished because its not profitable compared to farming a wave of creeps. On top of this, the lack of a mechanic to get around the map quickly further detracts ganks from happening. Sure you can get the teleport summoner spell but what good is that crap on a huge cooldown. Blue pill doesn't count either because that is a one way ticket back to base. It doesn't allow you to get straight back to farming after a failed gank attempt.

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I have no idea what game you are talking about but it isn't league First off vayne top gets rekt by 90% of top laners, second first blood hardly ends a lane. A first blood mid puts me a doran's ring ahead, which isn't shite. I don't know what pros you watch either because a jungler that doesn't gank and farms xp is putting 0 pressure on the other lanes and is losing his team the game.