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Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:47 am to DanTiger
They were found in their cabin. I would check their ventilation system, possibly some kind of leak of carbon monoxide from the engine room.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:49 am to bencoleman
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They were found in their cabin. I would check their ventilation system, possibly some kind of leak of carbon monoxide from the engine room.
That's possible for sure. This is one of those stories where there will always be 2 visible sides of the aisle. Those who believe they were slamming heroin and those who don't. I don't believe they were.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:50 am to GrammarKnotsi
Could easily be respiratory failure with no drug use. Could be CO2 or CO asphyxiation or toxic organic vapors, ie petrochemical vapors that seeped into their quarters.
If they were deep into the ship (lower decks), it could be lots of bad air things coupled with poor/failed ventilation that got them.
It's not like they listen to a sailor much on a cargo ship when they complain of bad air in their quarters.
If they were deep into the ship (lower decks), it could be lots of bad air things coupled with poor/failed ventilation that got them.
It's not like they listen to a sailor much on a cargo ship when they complain of bad air in their quarters.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:52 am to Broke
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Those who believe they were slamming heroin and those who don't. I don't believe they were.
I agree with you, although, they are required to shoot up whenever they are deployed by DoD policy .
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:53 am to MeridianDog
Maybe a venomous spider bit them while they were sleeping
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:57 am to Broke
Somehow I'm relieved....now what?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:57 am to MeridianDog
I'm sure the toxicology results will give everyone a clue of what caused the respiratory failure.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:58 am to rcd0808
quote:Not trying to troll... I knew Mark personally... But I'm pretty sure that painkillers severely retard the respiratory system.
So they died because they stopped breathing?
Sure the cause of death is "respiratory failure"... But "why" is the operative question.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:01 am to ForeverLSU02
I'm the kinda guy that believes the simplest explanation is usually the right one. And the simple explanation is that they ODed. Probably on a Heroin. Maybe they were hooked on pills from prior injuries and weren't able to get their fix so they turned to Heroin and got a hot batch of shitty African Heroin. Or maybe they had PTSD and were just self medicating. I don't know. It's sad and it's a tragedy but that's all it is.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:02 am to MeridianDog
I suggested it might be CO in the first thread. But bad air from the ship's ventilation system probably would have affected other cabins, unless these guys were in an isolated area. If they were using a source of combustion gases as a supplemental heat source or cooking in their cabin, that could do it too, although I wouldn't think they'd be that dumb.
There are drugs that can cause respiratory failure aside from heroin. Enough booze can cause respiratory failure.
I wonder if respiratory failure has been listed as cause of death, but manner of death hasn't been released... (I haven't read the article.)
There are drugs that can cause respiratory failure aside from heroin. Enough booze can cause respiratory failure.
I wonder if respiratory failure has been listed as cause of death, but manner of death hasn't been released... (I haven't read the article.)
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:03 am to Broke
Maybe the drugs they were doing weren't actually drugs
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:03 am to Broke
How can that "report" mean anything?
It is a biased view of the employer of a report that has not been officially released and toxicology reports are still not even complete. Of course Trident wants to say that its security personnel couldn't have any drug issues.
At best, it is equal to the ship company reporting drugs and drug paraphernalia was found in the room.
Two guys just stop breathing? Nope.
It is a biased view of the employer of a report that has not been officially released and toxicology reports are still not even complete. Of course Trident wants to say that its security personnel couldn't have any drug issues.
At best, it is equal to the ship company reporting drugs and drug paraphernalia was found in the room.
Two guys just stop breathing? Nope.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:08 am to Monk
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of Seychelles authorities to say that they had drugs in their system? So the heat would be off of their country? This is the part that gets me:
“Clearly stated on each autopsy report is that death by drug overdose is ruled out,”
I assume he's seen the report before anyone else gets it.
“Clearly stated on each autopsy report is that death by drug overdose is ruled out,”
I assume he's seen the report before anyone else gets it.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:10 am to Broke
No big deal. Just the fact that nuclear weapons are being trafficked around our waterways. Mental note: after achieving oilfield retirement, move to a smaller town.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:17 am to bencoleman
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They were found in their cabin. I would check their ventilation system, possibly some kind of leak of carbon monoxide from the engine room.
If that were the case everyone in the living quarters would have died.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:20 am to Broke
Didn't the first report state that drug paraphernalia was found near their bodies? Honest question.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:20 am to DanTiger
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I agree with you, although, they are required to shoot up whenever they are deployed by DoD policy
I am not sure required would be the word, but I think we have all heard of them going native. I can't believe you haven't see that great documentary called Apocalypse Now.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:20 am to rcd0808
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died of respiratory failure
So they died because they stopped breathing?
Either respiratory failure or cardiac arrest is what will get all of us eventually.
ETA: Also, how can OD be ruled out when they are still waiting on the toxicology report?
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 11:22 am
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:22 am to Broke
I know of a guy who died rather mysteriously. He was found in bed by his five year old daughter, who just thought he was sleeping. No sign of foul play or anything suspicious. Just a seemingly healthy 43 y/o, suddenly dead...
It took about ten weeks for the ME's office to classify his cause of death as Mixed Drug Intoxication and the manner of death as Accidental.
Maybe the Seychelles can run toxicology screens faster than the Tarrant County (TX) ME's office.
It took about ten weeks for the ME's office to classify his cause of death as Mixed Drug Intoxication and the manner of death as Accidental.
Maybe the Seychelles can run toxicology screens faster than the Tarrant County (TX) ME's office.
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