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re: Jimmy Graham might smash Franchise Tag rules

Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:52 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:52 am to
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If that's the case, the saints should let him go. He's nothing but a slower colston.



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Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:59 am to
It'll go to arbitration and he'll get money in between WR and TE. WR is 10 million TE is 6 million he'll get 8.

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If that's the case, the saints should let him go. He's nothing but a slower colston.


Except that he's faster than Colston. So until you actually get the facts straight don't comment on shite you don't understand.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:01 am
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:00 am to
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terrell suggs already did this

I'm glad someone remembers this.

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Except that it will fail. CBA is clear.

Somehow the CBA managed to screw up something that was relatively settled by combining positions (i.e the offensive line) and decreeing that percentage of plays was the determination of a player's position.


Also, I just want to point out the insanity that Jimmy Graham is arguing, in essence, that he should be paid more because he isn't good at blocking.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:01 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:08 am to
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WR is 10 million TE is 6 million he'll get 8.

WR is 11.6. TE is 6.8. Middle is 9.2.

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So until you actually get the facts straight don't comment on shite
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51765 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:10 am to
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WR is 11.6. TE is 6.8. Middle is 9.2. 


I was actually close unlike that douche.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:12 am to
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I was actually close unlike that douche


So basically, you just make up random numbers and then say to someone else:

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So until you actually get the facts straight don't comment on shite


But then say it's ok that you don't get the facts straight because you were closer? Got it.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51765 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:14 am to
Look you want to stick up for your boyfriend that's fine I think it's cute.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:17 am to
I love the responses on here when you call someone out for being a dumbass. Classic.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:27 am to
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Somehow the CBA managed to screw up something that was relatively settled by combining positions (i.e the offensive line) and decreeing that percentage of plays was the determination of a player's position.



No offense, but I'd be pissed if I was drafted as a TE, played as a WR for all intents and purposes, and then was paid as a TE.
Posted by Tigersfan
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:29 am to
What no one seems to be mentioning is that one of the main reason he lines up outside so often is because he can't block for shite, which in turn makes the offense predictabl. So basically what he is saying by pulling this shite is that he should be rewarded with more money for being a one dimensional player.

shite, if he could actually block someone I wouldn't be opposed to paying him like a top 5 receiver. At least then the offense wouldn't be so damn predictable and they could actually get some semblance of a consistent running game.

Also, if he was a WR maybe he could have helped his case by not getting shut down easily when another team put a good corner on him, i.e. Aqib Talib.

So as far as I'm concerned he can be paid as top 15- 20 WR or the number 1 TE. Regardless the money should be abut the same.



Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71568 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:30 am to
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What no one seems to be mentioning is that one of the main reason he lines up outside so often is because he can't block for shite, which in turn makes the offense predictabl. So basically what he is saying by pulling this shite is that he should be rewarded with more money for being a one dimensional player.



Nobody is mentioning this because it doesn't matter in the any sort of the process.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:32 am to
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No offense, but I'd be pissed if I was drafted as a TE, played as a WR for all intents and purposes, and then was paid as a TE.

He doesn't seemed to be pissed off when he is named to the Pro Bowl as a Tight End. Or when people say he has the second most receiving touchdowns in a season for tight end in the history of the NFL. He doesn't seemed to be pissed when he sets records for the tight end position.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71568 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:37 am to
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He doesn't seemed to be pissed off when he is named to the Pro Bowl as a Tight End. Or when people say he has the second most receiving touchdowns in a season for tight end in the history of the NFL. He doesn't seemed to be pissed when he sets records for the tight end position.



What was he supposed to do? It was a non-issue until it came to this.

I guess I don't understand why you keep bringing this up as some sort of proof. Players in other sports change positions all the time, why is football so fundamentally different?
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17110 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:37 am to
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He doesn't seemed to be pissed off when he is named to the Pro Bowl as a Tight End. Or when people say he has the second most receiving touchdowns in a season for tight end in the history of the NFL. He doesn't seemed to be pissed when he sets records for the tight end position.


Irrelevant to this conversation.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30145 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:38 am to
or you know, "2013 All-Pro Tight End Jimmy Graham"

Why didn't he say, nay bro. I am a WR not a TE.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:40 am to
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I guess I don't understand why you keep bringing this up as some sort of proof.

That is the first time I have mentioned anything about him being named to the pro bowl as a tight end in this entire thread.

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What was he supposed to do? It was a non-issue until it came to this.

Right. It's a non issue until it comes to the money argument. He is okay with being called a tight end when he is breaking records and being named to the pro bowl. But when it comes to a contract he should all of the sudden be a WR?

I really don't care what happens one way or another. I am a Saints fan and hope Jimmy remains a Saint. I just don't think he is a WR for the purposes of a contract.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71568 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:42 am to
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I just don't think he is a WR for the purposes of a contract.


Thats a cool opinion, and the NFL is going to disagree with you

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Right. It's a non issue until it comes to the money argument. He is okay with being called a tight end when he is breaking records and being named to the pro bowl. But when it comes to a contract he should all of the sudden be a WR?



How was he supposed to disagree? Even had he said hey guys, I'm a WR, they would have classified him as a TE anyways.

I just think it's funny all these Saints fans are bashing Jimmy, but man he was supposedly as good as Megatron earlier this year.

This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:44 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:43 am to
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Thats a cool opinion, and the NFL is going to disagree with you

That's a cool opinion. I guess we will have to wait and see on that one
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21557 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:43 am to
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Right. It's a non issue until it comes to the money argument. He is okay with being called a tight end when he is breaking records and being named to the pro bowl. But when it comes to a contract he should all of the sudden be a WR?


I don't see why more people don't realize this.

With as much money as Brees is tying up, we really can't afford to lock in Jimmy long term IMO. THat money would be better spent on defense. Look at Seattle. I hope the Saints Franchise him and then let him walk.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:45 am to
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Even had he said hey guys, I'm a WR, they would have classified him as a TE anyways.

Then why should he be classified and paid like a top 5 WR in the game? I still haven't seen one legitimate response from you or anyone indicating why it's cool to classify him as a TE for everything except his contract.
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