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re: Once Gay Rights Are Fully Recognized...What Is The Next Civil Rights Frontier?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:35 am to HempHead
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:35 am to HempHead
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Because grown men and women can consent to sex, marriage, and trade, among other things. Children, and likewise animals, are not afforded this ability.
Animals yes, but what makes a 14 year old less able to consent than an 18 year old? Our ages of consent are arbitrary and most humans in history were just fine with adults having sex with what we would call children.
Moreover, are we asking people genuinely attracted to "children" to remain celibate their entire lives? If so, are we not being hypocritical after using that same argument against those who would prevent gay marriage?
To blow this off as an easy "they are sick fricks" issue is intellectually dishonest.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:42 am to Roger Klarvin
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Animals yes, but what makes a 14 year old less able to consent than an 18 year old? Our ages of consent are arbitrary and most humans in history were just fine with adults having sex with what we would call children.
The age of consent is a tough one. Obviously, some people are more emotionally/intellectually mature than others at the same age. I find this a difficult standard to determine or to impose. However, if you ask me, being attracted to a pubescent teen is not anywhere near being attracted to an actual child. I think there is a different terminology for it, something like ephebophile I think.
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Moreover, are we asking people genuinely attracted to "children" to remain celibate their entire lives? If so, are we not being hypocritical after using that same argument against those who would prevent gay marriage?
It depends on the argument you are making. If it is on the basis of 'well, they can't help it, why not let them do it?', then yes it may be hypocritical. If it is viewed from the lens of self-ownership and consent, then it becomes obvious why pedophilia is not workable. Maybe, in the future, we can create software/hardware to sate the desires of pedophiles (or maybe even 'fix' them).
Posted on 2/5/14 at 3:26 am to Roger Klarvin
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what makes a 14 year old less able to consent than an 18 year old
some life experience after puberty!!!
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most humans in history were just fine with adults having sex with what we would call children.
They were fine with slavery, executions with no trial, and taking a bath once a month also.
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are we asking people genuinely attracted to "children" to remain celibate their entire lives
too bad so sad, beat off to the Disney channel.
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To blow this off as an easy "they are sick fricks" issue is intellectually dishonest
Nope, it really is that easy. People that would even think about doing shite to an underage child need to be put down.
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