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re: Who is to blame for this alleged disappearance of the middle class?

Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:34 pm to
Is the middle FALLING to the low? Or, is the middle CLIMBING to the high?


But, to answer your question...where one is is the sum total of the decisions one has made (extended to succeeding generations). So, one is to blame for where one is.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:36 pm to
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But, to answer your question...where one is is the sum total of the decisions one has made (extended to succeeding generations). So, one is to blame for where one is.


Well some people don't have the mental capacity or the guidance to make certain decisions.

It's not that they're trying to frick up. They're easily taken advantage of due to poor education or intellect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:36 pm to
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Is the middle FALLING to the low? Or, is the middle CLIMBING to the high?


I'm thinking it's just been redefined.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:38 pm to
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Is the middle FALLING to the low? Or, is the middle CLIMBING to the high?

I couldn't tell you off the top of my head but the sentiment seems to be that more people are being pushed to the lower edge of the middle class than the higher edge. Of course middle class is difficult to define since it's essentially everyone who is neither poor nor rich.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:38 pm to
Are the days gone when an unskilled laborer can get a job in a local plant after pissing away high school and make a decent living? For the most part, yes. Can someone still easily acquire the skills needed to get a decent job if they put forth an effort? YES!!!
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 5:57 pm to
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Is the middle FALLING to the low? Or, is the middle CLIMBING to the high?



Both. Achievers are taking advantage of opportunity while underachievers are settling for less and OK with their decisions.
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But, to answer your question...where one is is the sum total of the decisions one has made (extended to succeeding generations). So, one is to blame for where one is.



I agree with this. Sure anyone can have bad luck and for instance get terminal cancer not related to personal habits but for the most part life is about choices. And I wouldn't necessarily assign "blame" to many situations in which people are reconciled with their choices. A good example might be a young man who chooses to stay in his home town near family and friends knowing that he could take a job in a major city making more money.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 6:31 pm to
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Or, is the middle CLIMBING to the high?


That's what I see 90% of the time someone I know or know of changes "classes." The ones I know of who dropped, did so because they took a business risk and lost. In the end though, they'll probably still end up ahead of most as they keep pushing.
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