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Heart Surgeon declares "we were wrong" re causes of heart disease
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:08 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:08 am
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Simply stated, without inflammation being present in the body, there is no way that cholesterol would accumulate in the wall of the blood vessel and cause heart disease and strokes. Without inflammation, cholesterol would move freely throughout the body as nature intended. It is inflammation that causes cholesterol to become trapped.
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The rest of us have simply followed the recommended mainstream diet that is low in fat and high in polyunsaturated fats and carbohydrates, not knowing we were causing repeated injury to our blood vessels. This repeated injury creates chronic inflammation leading to heart disease, stroke, diabetes and obesity.
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:31 am to C
So you're telling me I can actually eat butter, cream and bacon? 
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:15 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:13 am to C
Good article.
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What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flour and all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.
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There is but one answer to quieting inflammation, and that is returning to foods closer to their natural state. To build muscle, eat more protein. Choose carbohydrates that are very complex such as colorful fruits and vegetables. Cut down on or eliminate inflammation- causing omega-6 fats like corn and soybean oil and the processed foods that are made from them.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:25 am to C
Good article. Thanks
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:44 am to tiger 56
It was passed to me from another doctor so I assume it's not trash. He's not a heart surgeon but still.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:56 am to C
Interesting article. I'm not saying the article is good or bad but he seems to ignore the fact that in order for your vessel walls to plaque, your blood must be high is cholesterol. Inflammation isn't going to cause that level to be high.
It seems to me that a more sensible diet is what is he almost recommending.
It seems to me that a more sensible diet is what is he almost recommending.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:59 am to C
So the "consensus" in medical science that animal fats are bad is wrong?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:02 am to Helo
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It seems to me that a more sensible diet is what is he almost recommending.
What he is saying is that unless you have inflammation of the arteries, you're not going to have heart disease. Obviously if you have inflammation, high cholesterol will increase your likelihood over someone with lower cholesterol.
What he is basically saying is if you change your diet so that you aren't damaging your arteries you will lower your risk of heart disease better than trying to reduce your cholesterol.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:40 am to C
There's a reason it's called "Practicing" medicine
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:43 am to C
This article is pretty much how I view nutrition right now it is supported by the most recent science. Whenever I ask someone who is in their late 80's or older, and in great physical and mental health, what their habits are like, they almost always tell me that they stay as active as possible throughout the day; eat pretty much old school, whole food diets (most make a point to say bacon); and take very few medications.
I find it fascinating to look at how poorly written and extremely outdated most nutrition guidelines from the government and medical organizations. For decades people have been advised to stay away from what are now known to be the most healthful foods.
One of the most well-documented strategies to slow, and potentially partially reverse senescence, is to reduce calories intake (particularly carbohydrates). When I see most of the "healthy diet foods" that come in packages (meal replacement shakes, fiber one bars, etc), they almost always contain refined grains and fructose. Most people have no concept of what real food is.
I find it fascinating to look at how poorly written and extremely outdated most nutrition guidelines from the government and medical organizations. For decades people have been advised to stay away from what are now known to be the most healthful foods.
One of the most well-documented strategies to slow, and potentially partially reverse senescence, is to reduce calories intake (particularly carbohydrates). When I see most of the "healthy diet foods" that come in packages (meal replacement shakes, fiber one bars, etc), they almost always contain refined grains and fructose. Most people have no concept of what real food is.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:52 am to Yat27
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So you're telling me I can actually eat butter, cream and bacon?
I do. I cook with unsalted butter in almost every meal. I don't eat a ton of bacon, but I've been trying to cut back on my grocery bill.
My diet is pretty low in carbs. I don't eat breads unless I'm eating out, and that's if I order a sandwich. If I do eat a grain, it's jasmine rice or corn.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:54 am to C
anyone on a ketogenic diet or paleo type diet already knew this.
there is a vast amount of research that supports the OP.
I have been on a ketogenic diet for about 8 months now. i shoot for a daily macro intake of about 60% fats, 30% Proteins and 10% carbs. i have lost a bunch of weight, I feel amazing, I am never hungry, and my blood work has greatly improved.
we have been lied to by the government and academics about fats and carbs for year, somewhat out of necessity. the government has to promote a diet high in carbs otherwise there would not be enough food for everyone to eat and/or food prices would be extraordinarily high....both of which would lead to serious issues like violence or riots.
there is a vast amount of research that supports the OP.
I have been on a ketogenic diet for about 8 months now. i shoot for a daily macro intake of about 60% fats, 30% Proteins and 10% carbs. i have lost a bunch of weight, I feel amazing, I am never hungry, and my blood work has greatly improved.
we have been lied to by the government and academics about fats and carbs for year, somewhat out of necessity. the government has to promote a diet high in carbs otherwise there would not be enough food for everyone to eat and/or food prices would be extraordinarily high....both of which would lead to serious issues like violence or riots.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 7:59 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:00 am to Upperaltiger06
This is kind of old news to me, but its good to get it out. Cholesterol isn't the problem. Its inflammation of the vessel wall. Cholesterol is the final fix, or spackling that repairs the wall. Focus on inflammation has been the latest push, just stop damage before it starts. You might have seen the push for the Omega 3 fatty acid pills by Doctors lately, cause they know the breakdown of these fats are anti-inflammatory to the vessel wall.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:00 am to Helo
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Interesting article. I'm not saying the article is good or bad but he seems to ignore the fact that in order for your vessel walls to plaque, your blood must be high is cholesterol. Inflammation isn't going to cause that level to be high. It seems to me that a more sensible diet is what is he almost recommending.
What you say about cholesterol is not true. You can have low total cholesterol and have a very high risk for cardiovascular disease. You can have high total cholesterol and have a low risk for cardiovascular disease.
This a pretty good article, but the main reason I post it is for the first graph that appears. In it, you can see the relationship of "good cholesterol" (HDL) and "bad cholesterol" vs. coronary artery disease (disease of the arteries of the heart). If you look at the back right corner, you can see a risk factor for a person with low cholesterol levels has a much higher risk for disease than the person in the front left corner (with a blood cholesterol of over 300).
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:04 am to Upperaltiger06
I look at my grandfather's past of eating every part of a pig and a cow. We turn our noses up at organ meats and he ate all of them. He loved squirrel, ate cracklins. Some times cracklins were breakfast! He worked hard his whole life and kept moving. He made it to 89 and I lost him a little over a week ago.
He loved to eat and was never fat.
He loved to eat and was never fat.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:06 am to tracytiger
Organs are pretty rich in vitamins. Most people don't have the palate for them though.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:29 am to TrueTiger
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So the "consensus" in medical science that animal fats are bad is wrong?
I see hat you did here.
Similar crap will come out regarding salt recommendations. All of this recommended diets by the FDA were political moves to enrich companies (dear lord I sound like a commie), and none of this was based in science.
Thank God I had a very wise father.
Enjoy normal foods, as close to the stuff they were as you can. Bottom line is anything processed is bad. And be cautious about anything man made.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:33 am to C
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What he is saying is that unless you have inflammation of the arteries, you're not going to have heart disease. Obviously if you have inflammation, high cholesterol will increase your likelihood over someone with lower cholesterol.
What he is basically saying is if you change your diet so that you aren't damaging your arteries you will lower your risk of heart disease better than trying to reduce your cholesterol.
Eso. Go paleo and you will be fine. I always use lard instead of Crisco. Use what nature gave us.
And stop following salt recommendations (unless you are salt sensitive). Eating low in salt will make you overeat (our bodies will perfectly regulate our body salt, regardless of how much you consume), because most of us need a lot more than what they are recommending. If you don't eat enough, your body will send signals to eat more to get to the correct salt levels.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:48 am to austingator
Sounds like pig farmers need to lawyer up.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:01 am to austingator
Shop on the outside of the grocery, don't shop on the inside aisles. Limit dairy.
Eating paleo has changed my stomach flare ups from ulcerative colitis. It's all about the diet.
Eating paleo has changed my stomach flare ups from ulcerative colitis. It's all about the diet.
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