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Don't mean to anger anyone with this but I have a question regarding Saban.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 1:50 am
Posted on 1/18/14 at 1:50 am
I was just genuinely curious as to how LSU landed Saban or how the whole hiring process went with him. I was only 12 when we hired him so I obviously didn't follow the ins and outs of football like I do now. I guess this is more of LSU history than Saban to an extent. Anyway thanks and as always
Posted on 1/18/14 at 2:03 am to xxKylexx
I believe Skip Bertman, as the AD at that time, hired Saban from Michigan State.
I think I'm correct saying that.
I think I'm correct saying that.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 2:31 am to xxKylexx
The chancellor at the time, Mark Emmert, was heavily involved in luring Saban. They saw what he was capable of accomplishing despite 4 mediocre seasons then 1 great yr in East Lansing. Pres. Peterson @ MI St. didn't want to try to compete w/ LSU in bidding for Saban's services. MSU endured 7 seasons of ineptitude under 2 bumbling coaches due to that stupid decision.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 3:08 am to xxKylexx
Joe Dean was AD. After Saban was hired Skip stepped down as BB Coach and became AD,
Posted on 1/18/14 at 4:59 am to xxKylexx
Mark made it happen. Joe Dean had no input in making the deal.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 5:01 am to xxKylexx
Skip was baseball coach until 2001
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:49 am to xxKylexx
Saban's Agent called Joe Dean who was the AD at the time and said Saban was interested in talking about the LSU job. After he immediately checked with his consulting firm in Dallas? Dean immediately rushed to Emmert and told him. Emmert had Saban down for an interview and they reached a tentative agreement depending on Daban's wife Terri liking Baton Rouge and LSU. Terri Saban came down and visited and approved so LSU made Saban the first $1MM coach.
Saban wanted to move for several reasons. One was MSU played 2nd fiddle to U of MI. The second was the President of MSU refused to play Saban the bonus he received for taking MSU to a bowl. He told Saban his $600K salary was enough, that he as President did not make that much.
Saban wanted to move for several reasons. One was MSU played 2nd fiddle to U of MI. The second was the President of MSU refused to play Saban the bonus he received for taking MSU to a bowl. He told Saban his $600K salary was enough, that he as President did not make that much.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:20 am to xxKylexx
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The call came around 7:30 on the night before Thanksgiving, as Gil Brandt, a former Vice President of player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys who had been tapped to help out with the Louisiana State search process, sat in his backyard on a pleasant late fall night.
Nick Saban, the Michigan State coach who was smarting from a Bowl Game that went to Michigan over his Spartans and a slow-to-come bonus but at least according to Brandt not searching for a new gig at the time, almost immediately said he would be interested.
“He said ‘look, I think I’ve done a pretty good job here at Michigan State,” Brandt, who now works for NFL Media, remembered in a conversation with For The Win. “I’ve beaten Ohio State, I’ve beaten Penn State, I’ve beaten Michigan and sometimes it’s time to move on.”
According to Brandt, who said he has known Saban from when he was a graduate assistant at Ohio State, then asked if he’d be interested in the LSU position, which was open after Gerry DiNardo was fired earlier that month.
“He said, ‘yes I’m prepared to say I’m interested in the job’, without asking what it paid,” Brandt said. “Without asking anything about money, about years (on the contract).”
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Saban and his wife Terry flew down less than two days after Brandt called and together, the duo was impressive. Terry Saban, Brandt said, immediately hit it off with then-LSU president Mark Emmert’s wife as her husband impressed LSU officials and trustees. “Whenever you talk to Nick you can’t be anything but impressed,” Brandt said. “He’s very smart — he can talk about politics and banking and the Louisiana Purchase and everything. He’s just a guy that he’s never unprepared I would imagine that in a matter of 24 hours he probably did a thorough search as you could do (on LSU).”
By the time Saban left to go back to Michigan on Saturday, the deal was all but done.
Meanwhile, back in East Lansing, Mich. reports had been leaking out that Saban had been in talks with LSU. But without Twitter and the 24 hour news cycle, Michigan State officials led by trustee Joel Ferguson, according to the Wall Street Journal, were surprised to find Nick Saban at home without his wife. Saban, according to that report, denied that he had taken the job and said only that LSU had reached out to him.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:34 am to xxKylexx
Lsu's hiring of Saban was the official start on the million dollar coach. This was unheard of before this hire.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:45 am to xxKylexx
Saban wasn't anything special when we got him. He was tired of the lack of commitment at MSU and wanted out.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 8:28 am to xxKylexx
Saban and his agent Sexton are data-nerds. They knew that LSU was a sleeping giant on the rise, and that Lousiana (along with the DC/Maryland area, South Carolina and Mississippi) had the best per-capita NFL caliber football players in the country.
They also knew that, along with Nebraska and Ohio State, that Louisiana was one of 3 football crazy states with only 1 true big-time football program.
This had Sexton and Saban looking at LSU real hard, as based on these 2 factors, it made LSU one of the top-3 best places in all of college football to be a coach - assuming you could recruit and retain most of the in-state Talent. The bonus was the proximity to Texas and the rest of the deep south, making recruiting even better.
Yes, this is a lot of info that seems off-point, but SABAN AND SEXTON were among very few who actually knew this back in the late 90's, and among even fewer who strategically acted on the information.
So, Sexton contacted LSU and Mark Emmert. Mark Emmert jumped on it, and Saban came in and took over the reigns from a fairly good base of recruiting from DeNardo, and his confidence and knowledge of recruiting (along with his defensive ability, process orientation and NFL style discipline and work ethics/expectations) materialized into the success of the early 2000's....
They also knew that, along with Nebraska and Ohio State, that Louisiana was one of 3 football crazy states with only 1 true big-time football program.
This had Sexton and Saban looking at LSU real hard, as based on these 2 factors, it made LSU one of the top-3 best places in all of college football to be a coach - assuming you could recruit and retain most of the in-state Talent. The bonus was the proximity to Texas and the rest of the deep south, making recruiting even better.
Yes, this is a lot of info that seems off-point, but SABAN AND SEXTON were among very few who actually knew this back in the late 90's, and among even fewer who strategically acted on the information.
So, Sexton contacted LSU and Mark Emmert. Mark Emmert jumped on it, and Saban came in and took over the reigns from a fairly good base of recruiting from DeNardo, and his confidence and knowledge of recruiting (along with his defensive ability, process orientation and NFL style discipline and work ethics/expectations) materialized into the success of the early 2000's....
This post was edited on 1/18/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/18/14 at 9:43 am to xxKylexx
Saban probably realized LSU's potential in the Independence Bowl when Gerry whooped that arse
Posted on 1/18/14 at 11:10 am to xxKylexx
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I was just genuinely curious as to how LSU landed Saban
It started, for Saban, in 1995 when he came to Louisiana to play LSU in the Shreveport bowl game. A first year LSU Gerry DiNardo, taking over after six straight losing years, hammered a fifth year at Michigan State Saban in that bowl game.
That kind of thing stays in Saban's brain.
LSU had a opening fives years later, Michigan St. had a good record five years later, Michigan State was playing games with Saban, Saban decided to bail, and he remembered what a first year LSU coach had been able to do to him and his team.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 11:24 am to xxKylexx
Fwiw - a lot of people thought it was a bad hire. Especially after UAB loss
Posted on 1/18/14 at 11:44 am to xxKylexx
I remember him being something of a surprise hire. He wasn't on too may people's radar at the time.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 12:12 pm to xxKylexx
The way I remember it. Saban's agent Jimmy Sexton who is friends with and business partner of Sean Tuohy had Tuohy contact Joe Dean. Tuohy is from New Orleans and knew Dean personally. They let Dean and LSU know of Saban's interest in the job. LSU's group met with Sexton and Saban at Sexton's house in Memphis the Friday after thanksgiving actually while LSU was playing Arkansas. Saturday Terri Saban visited Baton Rouge and looked at a few areas to get her approval. Nick actually never stepped on campus until his press conference Monday morning. He said he knew what he was getting into because he had been to LSU many times looking at pro prospects. Joe Dean actually to no ones surprise wanted to low ball Saban. Tell Emmert that they could get him for less. Emmert told him no, you give him our best offer and that's it. The rest is history.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 3:15 pm to xxKylexx
Mark Emmert,then Chancellor of LSU, now Prez of the NCAA, hired Saban away from Michigan State, where he was their HC for 5 seasons,his record there was 34-24-1 with his best season there 9-2 for Sparty.
Saban didn't become a national name until LSU, and the success here.
Saban didn't become a national name until LSU, and the success here.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 10:11 pm to xxKylexx
Mark Emmert’s first choice was actually Butch Davis. Davis was at Miami “Canes”. He was going to take the job, however Davis was very clear that he had an interest in going to the NFL. Emmert told him he needed a five-year minimum commitment; it would take that long to turn the program around. Davis could/would not make that commitment. Emmert then turned to Gil Brandt, asking him whom he would hire. Gil stated; if he would come, I would get Nick Saban at Michigan State. He is the best evaluator of talent that I know.
Skip was still the BB coach at the time. Joe Dean was still the AD. As a side note..Emmert told Joe, that he (Joe) would join him on the trip, but he had no decision-making authority at all. They met with Nick at Sextons home in Memphis, TN where the deal was made and sealed. I can tell you there was no discussion of $ by Saban. He asked what the graduation rate was, is LSU prepared to invest in facilities. Nick did not visit the campus prior to agreeing to becoming LSU’s HC.
Skip was still the BB coach at the time. Joe Dean was still the AD. As a side note..Emmert told Joe, that he (Joe) would join him on the trip, but he had no decision-making authority at all. They met with Nick at Sextons home in Memphis, TN where the deal was made and sealed. I can tell you there was no discussion of $ by Saban. He asked what the graduation rate was, is LSU prepared to invest in facilities. Nick did not visit the campus prior to agreeing to becoming LSU’s HC.
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