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re: Spinoff: Meatheads, Please Explain the QB's Have To Win SB's Thing
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:07 pm to cubsfan5150
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:07 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:Because QB is the most important position in professional sports and has the single biggest impact on team performance. Great QBs should be able to lead their team to SB victory.
Please explain why it's so important.
quote:There are ~12 pitchers per MLB team. Only one starting QB per NFL team.
Pitchers aren't judged on World Series.
quote:You must be joking.
Basketball players are somewhat rightly judged based on the fact that one great basketball player has more impact that any other player in team sports IMO.
quote:SB victories are only one factor in consideration of all-time QB rankings. Does not winning a SB make Marino a less-than-great QB? Absolutely not. But it's a big negative factor in his candidacy for GOAT consideration. Same for all the other comparisons. SB wins is only one of many factors. But it's an important one in my and a lot of others' books.
Now, are willing to tell me that Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien are one of best QB's in NFL history? One of the best 30 or so?
Roethlisberger is better than Peyton?
Doug Williams is equal to Peyton?
Marino is not one of the top 30 or so QB's?
Brad Johnson is equal to Steve Young?
quote:Wins? No. ERA? Yes. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a better measure of pitching performance than ERA.
As I previously stated, are you the same people that still think that Wins and ERA in baseball are the greatest measure of a good/great pitcher?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:11 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:You're seriously underestimating the importance of a great basketball player.
You must be joking.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:15 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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You must be joking.
Again, it's my opinion, but a great football team can win a SB with several NFL QB's. Even a great basketball team, normally needs a very dominant player.
Take, LeBron, MJ, Kobe, shaq, or Magic off of their teams and they don't win long term.
As far as ERA goes, go check out ERA+ and several other sabermetric stats and you'll see.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 8:41 pm
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