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re: Spinoff: Meatheads, Please Explain the QB's Have To Win SB's Thing

Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:07 pm to
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Please explain why it's so important.
Because QB is the most important position in professional sports and has the single biggest impact on team performance. Great QBs should be able to lead their team to SB victory.
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Pitchers aren't judged on World Series.
There are ~12 pitchers per MLB team. Only one starting QB per NFL team.
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Basketball players are somewhat rightly judged based on the fact that one great basketball player has more impact that any other player in team sports IMO.
You must be joking.
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Now, are willing to tell me that Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien are one of best QB's in NFL history? One of the best 30 or so?

Roethlisberger is better than Peyton?

Doug Williams is equal to Peyton?

Marino is not one of the top 30 or so QB's?

Brad Johnson is equal to Steve Young?
SB victories are only one factor in consideration of all-time QB rankings. Does not winning a SB make Marino a less-than-great QB? Absolutely not. But it's a big negative factor in his candidacy for GOAT consideration. Same for all the other comparisons. SB wins is only one of many factors. But it's an important one in my and a lot of others' books.
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As I previously stated, are you the same people that still think that Wins and ERA in baseball are the greatest measure of a good/great pitcher?
Wins? No. ERA? Yes. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a better measure of pitching performance than ERA.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111237 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:11 pm to
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You must be joking. 
You're seriously underestimating the importance of a great basketball player.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15845 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:15 pm to
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You must be joking.


Again, it's my opinion, but a great football team can win a SB with several NFL QB's. Even a great basketball team, normally needs a very dominant player.

Take, LeBron, MJ, Kobe, shaq, or Magic off of their teams and they don't win long term.

As far as ERA goes, go check out ERA+ and several other sabermetric stats and you'll see.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 8:41 pm
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