re: Bart Starr vs. Roger Staubach

I disagree, it wasn't a dead ball era so much, but it is todays rules that have pussified the game to the point it's almost unbearable to watch.

Step out of the pocket and commit leagal frickin grounding

Holding is never called and the O-L are taught how to hold “ legaly ”.

Don't hit a receiver hard. LMAO.

I would love to see todays sissy QBs play in the 60s or 70s , they would quit.

Joe Namath had surgery on both knees multiple times and was washed up by 72.

I think the passing rules were perfected in 1978. Passing never looked better than it did in the 1980s.

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Staubach was quite ahead of his peers...at least that one glorious year. Far more shocking in performance than Manning's supposed great 2004 year or Montana's all-time 1989 year.

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Staubach exceeded his peers throughout his career by a slightly greater margin than Montana and significantly larger margin than Manning.

As someone else said Staubach was a playmaker, Starr was a game manager.

Starr is very overrated. He's the 5th best QB of the 60s after Dawson Tarkenton Unitas and Jurgensen.

Oh and for those that don't know Staubach was throwing to 3 HOFers, Bob Hayes, Lance Alworth and Mike Ditka in 1971

I think Staubach is great, but Bart Starr might be one of the single most underrated players in NFL history. He was essentially the equivalent of Johnny Unitas, but gets tagged with the title of game manager. Starr gets viewed as the guy who handed the ball of the Hornung, who might be the single most OVERrated player in NFL history. When he was suspended for a season, the Packers still went 11-2-1 and were actually a better running team because Taylor didn't have to spend so much time blocking for an inferior back.

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Bart Starr never attempted at least 300 passes in a single season. His average was just above 200 and in 7 separate years he attempted less than 200 passes in a season.

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Well, he was the starter in 8 seasons. In those 8 years, he attempted:

295 - 285 - 244 - 272 - 251 - 251 - 210 - 255.

Every season in which he started at least 10 games, he threw over 200 passes, and six times over 250. Still, no, he wasn't chucking it all over field.

but why should he? A lot of that is the function of the fact that teams that are winning tend to run more to run out the clock. During the 7 consecutive seasons in which he got at least 10 starts, the Packers went 69-18-4. That's a lot of times he spent a lot of times handing off just to run clock. What came first, the chicken or the egg?

And during that 1961-67 span, he was averaging 8.3 yds/attempt. But the most compelling evidence of his greatness is that the Packers fell off as soon as he did. In 1968, he got hurt and didn't play a full year, and struggled when he did play. The Packers went from dominant to 6-7-1. In 1967, they won the Super Bowl with the immortal Jim Grabowski leading the team in rushing with 466 yards. (Of course, that was also when Lombardi became the GM -- but it's not like he had stud runners in 1967 and they were still awesome)

Roger the dodger was my favorite player as a 10 year old lad, but Bart was a leader before my time.Not throwing passes however doesn't make you a game manager. Right play, right time, and perfect execution all comes forth from the QB, run or pass.