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re: Would Peyton Manning or Tom Brady Receive 100% Vote from MLB Voters
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:20 pm to jg8623
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:20 pm to jg8623
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Care to explain why?
Sure. A 100% HOF vote for any player says, to me anyway, that HE was the greatest player to ever play whichever sport. No flaws, no failings. When in fact every player fails and has a flaw in their play.
100% vote is a herd mentality. There is a reason these halls have a %, to account for dissenting voices, which should be welcomed.
Nothing in reality is 100% and players getting a post career award aren't either. Brady/Manning are first ballot HOF'ers, doesn't mean that EVERY voter thinks or should think that way. Doesn't make them any less of a great player if one voter says no
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:24 pm to danfraz
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danfraz
You can't be serious. The OP is trying to point out the ridiculousness of HOF voting in baseball by using this football example, and I think he succeeds. Peyton is arguably the best QB ever. And if a voter was told he needed their vote to make it, they would vote for him. Too many guys trying to make a point.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:26 pm to danfraz
So, you think it's right that some voters didn't vote for Maddux? Those voters didn't think he belonged in the HOF.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:27 pm to danfraz
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Doesn't make them any less of a great player if one voter says no
No but it does make the voter an idiot and give plenty of reason to strip that voter of a vote
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:28 pm to danfraz
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Sure. A 100% HOF vote for any player says, to me anyway, that HE was the greatest player to ever play whichever sport. No flaws, no failings. When in fact every player fails and has a flaw in their play.
The voters don't know the votes of others until they are turned in. Hence one guy doesn't have the ability to notice that everyone else voted for him, so I'm not just so he doesn't get 100%. They vote who they think is worthy or not for whatever reason, and for some people to think certain players aren't worthy is insane
Being in the Hall of Fame doesn't mean you're the greatest player ever. It means you're one of the greatest that everyone should remember. Every decade has players that are among the greats that should be remembered. And it's pretty obvious who they are.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:36 pm to danfraz
So you're saying nobody should be elected on their first ballot? Why even have a HOF?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:03 pm to danfraz
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Sure. A 100% HOF vote for any player says, to me anyway, that HE was the greatest player to ever play whichever sport. No flaws, no failings. When in fact every player fails and has a flaw in their play.
100% vote is a herd mentality. There is a reason these halls have a %, to account for dissenting voices, which should be welcomed.
Nothing in reality is 100% and players getting a post career award aren't either. Brady/Manning are first ballot HOF'ers, doesn't mean that EVERY voter thinks or should think that way. Doesn't make them any less of a great player
That's fricking retarded.
There are no levels of merit....each voter has a yes or no vote. The idea a voter thinks a guy is a hall of famer but won't vote for him because no one should be 100% is beyond dumb.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:32 pm to danfraz
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Sure. A 100% HOF vote for any player says, to me anyway, that HE was the greatest player to ever play whichever sport. No flaws, no failings. When in fact every player fails and has a flaw in their play.
Lulz.
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