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re: Current list of LSU's early entrants to NFL Draft.... (UPDATED OP)

Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:21 am to
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LSU lost 11 early guys last year to the draft;


9. Mathieu and Wing were dismissed from the team.

quote:

It made sense last year for several guys from a $$$ standpoint, but it also didn't for several guys.
Which one did it not make sense for and why?
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10479 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:21 am to
Most are not bashing the guys leaving. However the OP has been ignored.

Why is it that so many more leave fro LSU than other schools?
Posted by beary25
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
1086 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:22 am to
Some schools may use it as a recruiting tool. And by some I mean all.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:23 am to
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LSU needs a better set of talking points on this topic. Several other competitors in our division apparently do a much better job of successfully communicating the pluses of staying.


This is just retarded.



Actually this is the truth...Yes LSU puts them in the league and prepares them for the league and we wish them the best in the NFL...The poster is stating that other competitors in the SEC have better talking points to keep there "good players" for the last year where as anybodies "great Star players" will go early regardless...Its something that has made me wonder as well.... where teams are getting there players to stay that are better than some of our jr's that are leaving early...
Posted by PropofoLSU
Irwin, Idaho
Member since Aug 2013
543 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:23 am to
Mathieu and wing still come from the LSU farm system.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:24 am to
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Some schools may use it as a recruiting tool. And by some I mean all.

Right?
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:24 am to
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Most are not bashing the guys leaving. However the OP has been ignored.

Why is it that so many more leave fro LSU than other schools?


Again. Two year sample. Could be trend. Might not be. Too short of a sample to tell.
Posted by PropofoLSU
Irwin, Idaho
Member since Aug 2013
543 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:25 am to
If it's the truth stripes list some players than other teams succeeded in keeping last year to garner better results than we did @10-3?

Aaron Murray stayed....how'd that work out for him?

This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:26 am to
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Mathieu and wing still come from the LSU farm system.


Correct. But it's pointless to use them as an example of early attrition when they had no say in the matter. Their careers at LSU were over. Mathieu's was over before it started last year.
Posted by West Central Tiger
Tiger Country
Member since Feb 2006
1154 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:27 am to
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I have no problem with kids leaving. It sucks for LSU, but it is their career.

Agree. I always thought the purpose of going to college was to better enable yourself to support self and family. These men probably will make more in one year than I made in a lifetime (with both of my degrees).

Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:27 am to
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other competitors in the SEC have better talking points to keep there "good players" for the last year where as anybodies "great Star players" will go early regardless


Name them. Go ahead. Name all the players throughout the SEC that chose to come back for another year and then name all of the ones for LSU that made no sense for them to leave.

Our fans are acting like pussies because we had a few players leave last year that were surprising by some accounts. We haven't had a single player declare this year that is a big surprise.

Overreaction is the theme of this board though. Kind of like on the day of the Under Armour All American game when 5for5 turned into 1for4 and then everyone started crying saying that they knew Fournette was going somewhere else and that there was no chance he was coming here.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:30 am to
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Overreaction is the theme of this board though.


Remember when the theme of the board is that Miles and the staff didn't "develop talent".

There's always a crisis to be found.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:32 am to
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Remember when the theme of the board is that Miles and the staff didn't "develop talent".




Seriously ironic how some posters will complain about something and flip it and literally complain when the direct opposite is happening from their original complaint. This place is comic relief.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28746 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:32 am to
Fans need to understand that the NFL drafts more on physical ability than college production. If that weren't the case, then the Danny Wurffels and Colt Brennans of the world would be first round picks, while a guy like Mario Williams (2006 #1 overall pick) wouldn't sniff the 1st round.

Landry and Beckham had about as good a year as they could have at LSU. While neither is probably a 1st rounder (MAYBE Beckam) their draft stock is as high as it's going to get.

Johnson and Ferguson play a premium position in the NFL. They didn't have great years at LSU, but they have the physical abilities that NFL teams covet. NFL coaches can teach a guy technique. They can't teach him to be 6'3 300lbs with good speed and quickness. It would not shock me if one of these guys was the first LSU player to come off the board. Hell, Tyson Jackson was a top-5 pick! Al Woods who did nothing at LSU is a DL for the Steelers

LSU recruits the top athelets in the country. In doing so, they're getting players that are physically ready to be NFL players after a few years. Thus, the chances of many of them leaving early increases. The days of only Juniors who are projected to go in 1st round leaving early are over. Get over it! I'd be much, MUCH, more concerned if LSU was siging guys who physically had no chance of becoming NFL players.
Posted by Chase.E.Chabaud
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
80 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:33 am to
Is wing still in the league? Did I miss something?
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:33 am to
Since some seem to think this leaving early is an LSU failure of sorts that others don't fail at, I would dearly love to hear what they think those others are using as such compelling arguments to make kids not leave?

Oh sure. They are all bringing up Bama but, this two year sample we are larger than almost everyone. So, the whole "stay to win championships" argument can't be the ticket.

Here's a crazy thought. Maybe.....just MAYBE....it's an odd two year sample and nothing more.

Nah. Can't be.
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3062 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:34 am to
No it's not.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:35 am to
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PropofoLSU



CJ mosely
HAHA Clinton Dix
just to name a few
Posted by PropofoLSU
Irwin, Idaho
Member since Aug 2013
543 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:35 am to
Wing got picked up by Pittsburgh I believe.
Posted by PropofoLSU
Irwin, Idaho
Member since Aug 2013
543 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:37 am to
Mosley is a senior.....good Job 1 guy

Haha is a junior.....bad arguement he is leaving early.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 9:39 am
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