Jrue Holiday trade

if the pick is in the 6-9 range, it will be a huge fail.

anything after that and I won't be to sons disappoint

He's about the same as Vazquez on offense and in TO's but he is much better than GV on D.

GV's D was terrible.

It's gonna take a while for him to fit within this (sub-par) offensive system. He has the talent. It just looks like he's playing disconnected out there. It will get better with time. Hopefully it will get much better.

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We could keep our first round pick next year for one of the best drafts in a long time.

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Even in the best drafts, a 10-14 pick is not that great. If we somehow shite the bed and get a top 3 pick, we keep it in a top-loaded draft.

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We could have kept Nerlens and have AD mentor him and no one could ever score on us in the paint. With those two down low that would give Ryno even more shots.

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I'm not sold on Nerlens Noel. Dude is super skinny and doesn't have the frame to add much weight at all. He also doesn't have much skill on offense, so it could result in a clogged lane.

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Also we could have kept Vasquez, who is not that much different from Holiday.

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So far, you are correct. Vasquez was better offensively. We were convinced that Holiday was head and shoulders above him as a defender, but he just hasn't shown much on that end so far. He just doesn't pressure the ball like I wanted him to. Hopefully he is just adjusting to the schemes and rotations that we use. I didn't see enough last year, but it's very possible his steal numbers last year were fool's gold. Sometimes steals come from sagging and jumping lanes, resulting in open lanes to the basket. He has certainly sagged more than I had hoped.

All that said, I think it's too early to say. It's still early and he's still learning his teammates tendencies and abilities. If it is Noel and a 10th pick or later, it will probably end up being a good trade.

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Nerlens and have AD mentor him and no one could ever score on us in the paint.

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We wouldn't be able to keep any big men out of the paint.

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Also we could have kept Vasquez, who is not that much different from Holiday.

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He's a completely different player than Holiday.

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is anyone kind of thinking back on this trade

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Yes.

And I think that any GM who went out his way to put Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon and Tyreke Evans on the same team should've been fired on the spot.

Don't get what is the fascination with Noel. Because his first name sounds like an idiot's pronunciation of New Orleans?

A better course of action would've been to draft Trey Burke instead. Or take MCW for ourselves. And still do the sign n trade with the Kings for Reke.

It was much more even or in favor of Philly than most on here wanted to act like at the time. There was such a strong contingent of "LOL WE GOT AN AS FOR AN INJURED GUY AND A PICK THAT WON'T MATTER."

Jrue's a nice player, and I don't think the deal will be a total loss for us, but it wasn't the slam dunk deal many made it out to be.