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re: Don't fret, LSU fans...this run by Alabama will end soon...

Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:24 pm to
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Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:42 pm to
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Outside of the last quarter and a half of this past game, LSU has been neck and neck with Alabama..


Hopefully the doom and gloomers will believe you.
Posted by tc5140
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:51 pm to
Two things I have is to clean up the sloppiness that has plagued his offenses for the past years.

Defense - Has to improve on tackling.
Posted by TheWinBar
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:20 pm to
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?


If Less has to stay in the equation:

1. Expand recruiting efforts outside the state to nationally elite athletes to compensate when Landon Collins or can Robinson choose bama

2. Beef up the defense. Enough with linebackers playing DE, safeties playing LB, and corners playing safety
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:24 pm to
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?


1. Reconstruct the front seven dominance, while retaining the excellent stable of DBs over the past few years. Defensive rebuilding shouldn't look like it has in 2013.

2. A QB that is a capable passer, mobile enough to avoid the rush, and smart enough to make good decisions with the ball - Mett was close, but Cam got him too late.

3. Keep Cam for at least 3 or 4 more seasons.

Hon. Mention - Get back the physical dominance where we were getting stronger while the other team got weaker - we did that in 2011 and were successful, effectively with 0 consistency at the QB position. Imagine that defense with 2013's offense (Ole Miss game notwithstanding)...

Posted by nascar99
New Iberia
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:36 pm to
Great post Chicken. agree with virtually everything you said.

Saban will be gone sooner than later and whom ever takes his place will struggle mightly to maintain the unparalled success.

AJ McCarron was perfect for Saban's coaching style.

LSU has issues with the front 7 on defense, the offensive line and either the DB's or the DB coach.

Changes that need to be made:

recruit better linemen, both offensive and defensive, recruit more 240lb linebackers.

This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:03 pm to
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Saban won't be there forever.


I know, but part of me wants him there when(if) LSU tunrs it around.

Revenge against Bama would be much sweeter if it happens while Saban is still the coach.

...but it will never happen
Posted by memphis tiger
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:08 pm to
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?


1. Prepare for every game like he is preparing for Alabama. Miles seems to take inferior temas lightly and this rubs off on the players. This is why we lost to Ole Miss and why Furman kept it close for half the game.

2. Keep the pressure on other teams when we get a lead. Stop going into a shell once we get up big (ie Auburn game). Not saying he should run up the score, but stay and keep the team focused and running on all cylinders even if we are just trying to run out the clock.

Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:14 pm to
Good post, Chicken.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:22 pm to
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?


Didn't read all 10 pages, but just listen to McCarron's comments after the game. There's most of your answer.
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:37 pm to
Very good analysis.

It is obvious our problems are on defense. Offensively, we will be pretty good next year even with a RS Freshman at QB.

I am still scratching my head at how A.J., Ego, Rasco & Hunter performed. On paper these 4 should be one of the premier D-Line's in the country. They all have the size & talent. Who's coaching the D-Line? (I know the answer just waiting for the attacks)

LB's - well I won't criticize them anymore than they have been, just again asking who's coaching them?

DB's - got beat way too often in man coverage. Our safeties were clueless. Who's coaching the DB's?

And by the way, who teaches our DB's to tackle? Do any of them know how to get low, square up and tackle at waist level or below? All of them go for body shots and bounce off (Alabama's last touchdown). Who coaches that?

I am not suggesting firing those coaches, just pointing out the drop-off from 2011.

I don't think you can blame the poor defensive play on "LACK OF TALENT"!

Sometimes even the best position coaches/recruiters need to have a fire lit under their arses!!!
Posted by Worth Man
Montgomery
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:38 pm to
Maybe it will, but LSU will continue down hill as well. Alabama has always will be better than LSU historically.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:58 pm to
Miles needs to get serious about the direction of this program. Play time is over.
Posted by ChrisSmith6
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:58 pm to
I'm not going to say that there is 2 or 3 certain things that need to be changed but I do know that Les is recruiting a lot of 3 and "to the league" type players. I think he needs to instill a mindset in the locker room of doing the right thing and having a relentless work ethic. I think he needs to figure out how to change some players minds about entering the draft (i.e. Hill, Landry, Collins). This would be the best recruitment per say he has had in all of his years he's been here. It is just simply impossible to beat the Bama's of the world with immature freshmen on both sides of the ball that just can't make the plays a junior or senior experienced player would make.
Posted by Sports2
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:31 pm to
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?


1. Consistent Discipline (on and off the field)

To me that is the biggest problem with LSU football for the past three years. If kids understand or expect to screw up with no repercussions then what prevents them from making it routine.

How come a running back fumbles and doesn't see the field for 3 quarters, but a qb throws a bad pick and stays in for the next series, or a defender absolutely gets lost in coverage and is thrown back out there. Back to back fumbles are as common as unicorns, but they are dealt the biggest blow.

Also Jeremy Hill sitting out entire quarters is baffling to many, he's the best player and gets lost somehow for a 3rd stringer? It doesn't add up far too often.

2. A return to fundamental tackling

This isn't just a problem at LSU, it's across college ball, but the bump tackle drives me crazy. Wrap up and drive your hips. Arm tackles are far to common on this years team, as is just a general lack of physicality. Out of position, poor angles and blown coverage has been rampant as well. If one kid was doing it, I'd blame the kid, but with so many players and at different positions (ie DB's and LB's) having problems, I think it goes back to coaching.

Just my thoughts
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:39 pm to
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What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm hoping you're on target, even though I hate to think Saban has to move or retire before LSU can catch Bama. It's just that seems like it's the reality we're facing.

So that being said, I think there are several things Coach Miles can do to step back from the abyss and bring LSU back to the center of football relevance.

1. Keep recruiting and repair that fence around Louisiana's talent.

2. Take a cold, hard look at his assistant coaching staff and evaluate the desired performance versus the reality. Make changes as needed. It's my feeling that OL and conditioning are two areas that need immediate help, along with LB. If that means shaking up the staff and moving some out, then do it. And sooner rather than later. Loyalty to staff members is not necessarily the same as loyalty to LSU. That may be hard for him. And likewise, look at non-performing or low-performing players and make adjustments as needed.

3. Today somebody raised a question about scheduling so many cupcakes and whether this is good for LSU, citing how much pressure LSU had in 2011 but how well LSU rose to the occasion and had a dominating season. A hard look at future scheduling might really help shape things for LSU's betterment.

4. It's been noticed that often when some play or someone is successful in a game or series of games, that someone or that play often disappears. Realizing that is partly anecdotal, it is also partly true. Wondering why? Should that be looked at more closely?

5. LSU has been criticized by many of us for "taking the foot off the pedal" and allowing opponents to hang around too long. As a result, many games that should be sure wins for LSU become close-scoring nail-biters for at least part of the game - most recent example is the halftime score for the LSU-Furman game. It has been happening this way so many seasons that it seems it's happening by design. If it is by design, that design need to go away. Permanently. LSU needs to keep the pressure up offensively and defensively for the entire game. I think it would also help morale, not to mention raise the excitement level for fans and be another incentive for those in the stadium to remain in the stadium for the whole game.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
55543 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:46 pm to
Have an average to above avg. Qb. Remember metts only been here for 2 years and look how a good qb opens up our offense. Look at what we did for 3 years on offense under jefferson/lee. Defensively we have to reload and not lose everyone to the NFL.. Good post chicken man
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:51 pm to
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Chicken


Dear Mr. Chicken,

Given the quoted statements:
quote:

Saban won't be there forever

quote:

that's a decline



Would you be willing to state, on the record, your admission of A/THE decline in the football program?

Also would you admit, in writing, that the LSU football's success is primarily contingent on nick saban leaving bama?

Your post smells of more explicit answers to these questions, but it seems you kind of tiptoed around it a bit.
Posted by ManCaveRadioESPN
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 5:27 pm to
Good post. Now good luck convincing the young tards who think post count is equal to dick size.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1446 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 5:33 pm to
Not sure I agree. There are other coaches that could continue the run at Alabama if Saban leaves. There is a process now in place at Alabama. How often does the sunshine crowd remind us that Les is better than Saban (in terms of performance at LSU). Les has an ego that seems to ruin the chemistry of his football teams. Once people started giving Cameron credit for the offense the changed as it changed in the 2011. A little ego never hurt anyone but if Les wants respect from the media he needs to change the goofy persona.
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