re: Reproductive Rights Discussion - Men get a raw deal

Father's Rights are an underground movement, but they have a very good point.

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Please read above. In truth, there is no rational way to make this particular issue equitable. Right now the woman is the one who gets pregnant, therefore she maintains the power. If the man is the one who decides, then he holds the power. There is nothing equitable about either.

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Well first, you're making this about the man and woman, when it should be about the child. Second, the difficulty is almost all because of the idea of Abortion in the first place, it places uneven responsibilities all around.

Take abortion off the table, and If a couple gets pregnant:

If they want to get married and keep it - Easy
If they both want to keep it and not be married - Child Support and Shared Custody
If the man wants to keep it - He gets the kid, woman doesn't have to pay anything
If the woman wants to keep it - She gets the child and he doesn't have to pay anything.
If neither want to keep it - Adoption

Easy. Put abortion back on the table and it messes it all up. It becomes about the woman and this ridiculous notion of "her body." It takes two to tango, there are not one, not two, but three bodies involved. It obviously, just like quoted, it becomes about who had the power.

Honestly, even with abortion it should be the same thing. Obviously, with more financial terms in place, specifically if a man wants to keep a child and a woman doesn't. She engaged in sex too, it's her responsibility to know her partner's stance beforehand too, she should know that he may or may not want to keep a kid.

Equality is the ONLY way to promote better sexual responsibility.