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re: Reason for loss in Oxford

Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:31 am to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:31 am to
There was over a minute to play and Ole Miss was in a 3rd and 9 situation inside their own territory. Our defense isn't very good. I don't even think they are average.
Posted by BananaHammock
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:33 am to
Reason for loss in Oxford (IMHO):

Posted by NorthLaTigerFan
Member since Jan 2004
970 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:33 am to
Our defense could not have stopped Grambling. At least not Grambling when they show up for a game. Mettenberger sucked, pure and simple. People can slam Cameron for his play calling, but those INTs are on Mettenberger. I do think Hill should have a few more carries, but this gameplan preparation was atrocious.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:04 am to
"Am I the only one who thinks the defense played well enough for us to win?"

In any close game, you can make this sort of argument because it is easy to point to a play or two that would have changed things. For example, "the offense had a bad first half but hung 24 on the board in the second. The O played 'well enough to win' if the D could have ever gotten off the field on 3rd down in the second half instead of giving up 6 of 8." The more meaninful question is simply whether the D played well. Unfortunately, the answer is "no, the D surrended 525 yards to Ole Miss in a disastrous outing."

"The gameplan was good enough to win?"

The same, relatively meaningless assertion could be made for the offensive game plan. In fact, it would be more supportable because the offensive failures were more directly tied to poor decisions/throws by Mett. The D was bad for most of the game and dreadful late, which suggests a bad plan/preparation, not just a couple of mistakes.

"And that Mettenberger's first half of not checking down cost us the game?"

Of course, this "cost us the game." But so did "not making a stop when it counted." Hell, the Ole Miss return man almost "cost Ole Miss the game."
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:17 am to
LSU's weakest teams can't beat the Black Bears strongest teams.

LSU's defense this year is average at best, and its offense is only as good as Mettenberger. Half a season under Cameron is not enough to iron out all the wrinkles.

Mettenberger is only as good as his pass protection, and that wasn't very strong against the Black Bears when they blitzed.

Also, where is LSU's pass rush like the years with the Honey Badger?

I don't think the Chief called any blitzes during Ole Miss's last drive.
Posted by canyon
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:15 pm to
Several. Most covered in the numerous threads since the loss. I will say that what I noticed watching the team warm up and then take the field, other than a few jumping around, I saw no fire, exitement, whatever you want to call it on our sidelines.

Also, maybe the biggest reason, OM wanted it way more than we did. They got tired of hearing all week how they were going to get their asses handed to them, too many injuries, etc., etc.
Posted by jpcajun
Member since Nov 2010
1227 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:36 pm to
Just so you know... In the books it goes down as LSU losing, not LSU Defense, LSU Offense! LSU lost because it was a combination of the lack of offense and defense.
Posted by Msgulfcoasttiger
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:41 pm to
Ole Miss was 8 of 10 on 3rd and long (which I defined as 6 yards or further). You can't win if your defense can't get off the field.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17732 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one who thinks the defense played well enough for us to win?


Yes.

Ole Miss moved the ball at will. Freaking Bo Wallace looked like Peyton Manning.
Posted by pellietigersaint
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Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

1st Quarter:

3rd and 10 at MISS 49 Bo Wallace pass complete to Ja-Mes Logan for 13 yards to the LSU 38 for a 1ST down.

3rd and 9 at LSU 37 Bo Wallace pass complete to Vince Sanders for 16 yards to the LSU 21 for a 1ST down.

2nd Quarter:

3rd and 15 at MISS 39 Bo Wallace pass complete to Jordan Holder for 23 yards to the LSU 38 for a 1ST down.

3rd Quarter:

3rd and 15 at MISS 19 Bo Wallace pass complete to Ja-Mes Logan for 17 yards to the Miss 36 for a 1ST down.

4th Quarter:

3rd and 9 at MISS 40 Bo Wallace pass complete to Donte Moncrief for 33 yards to the LSU 27 for a 1ST down.

3rd and 6 at MISS 19 Bo Wallace rush for 6 yards to the Miss 25 for a 1ST down.

3rd and 10 at MISS 25 Bo Wallace pass complete to Ja-Mes Logan for 14 yards to the Miss 39 for a 1ST down.

7 times Third and long - 7 conversions. That's really bad!



really? uh no
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 12:49 pm to
Team thought they could show up and win. Just like last year @ auburn. And when we played unc in atl.
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