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re: Kiper's Top 10 QB Prospects: Mettenberger No. 5
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:36 pm to Dudebro2
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:36 pm to Dudebro2
quote:yeah wilson doesn't dance around the pocket, he runs when he has to. Manziel runs because he can.
The only really successful scrambler and passer I have seen for the same size of Manziel is Russell Wilson.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:47 pm to tiger4178
quote:Brees will be playing at least 5 or 6 more years IMO
Easy now, I'd love for tSaint's to draft him and let him sit and learn from Bree's for a year or two...
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:48 pm to fightingtigers98
I'm sure Manziel will have the same elusiveness against NFL speed.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:49 pm to Tiger022
That'll change before the draft. He'll move up.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:53 pm to Rommel
Manzel is not an NFL qb no way NFL teams have him rated highly
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:04 pm to Melvin
It'd be cool as frick if Bree's can play another 5 or 6 years for tSaint's at his current productive rate, but it's simply not likely imo.
Manziel's future in tNFL is entirely dependent on him becoming a pass-first guy obviously, he's just too small to think otherwise, but he's also the exact same size as Bree's so why not learn from the master how to survive and thrive in tNFL.
And keep in mind, Johnny Football won't prolly demand that much leverage relatively speaking, he'll prolly be available in late 2nd or early 3rd so the risk/reward is a positive investment.
Manziel's future in tNFL is entirely dependent on him becoming a pass-first guy obviously, he's just too small to think otherwise, but he's also the exact same size as Bree's so why not learn from the master how to survive and thrive in tNFL.
And keep in mind, Johnny Football won't prolly demand that much leverage relatively speaking, he'll prolly be available in late 2nd or early 3rd so the risk/reward is a positive investment.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:05 pm to tiger4178
JFF still hasn't show the ability to NOT throw a jump ball.
The guy just tosses it in the air and 6'5 Evans makes a play.
The guy just tosses it in the air and 6'5 Evans makes a play.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:07 pm to Lifetigerfan
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Manzel is not an NFL qb no way NFL teams have him rated highly
That's exactly the thought process that could make him available to tSaints's for cheap.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:19 pm to tiger4178
Why would the saints want him?? he isn't a very good passer.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:30 pm to Dr. Shultz
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Why would the saints want him?? he isn't a very good passer
Say's who?
Sure, he's known more for his running ability but ask Bama if his 500+ yards passing was a fluke.
He's maybe not NFL ready as a passer right this moment, but the skills are certainly there to be so.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:35 pm to Lifetigerfan
I agree, that's why Mett moves up.
I wouldn't want Manziel.
Mett? Of course. Tall, can see over the line, etc.
I'd like to see him more mobile.
I wouldn't want Manziel.
Mett? Of course. Tall, can see over the line, etc.
I'd like to see him more mobile.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:40 pm to headboard banger
Johnny Football is ahead of "Melkenberger" (ESPN Chick's Name for Mett)? How can this be? How is JF's upside stronger than Mett's?
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:43 pm to tiger4178
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Say's who?
Sure, he's known more for his running ability but ask Bama if his 500+ yards passing was a fluke.
He's maybe not NFL ready as a passer right this moment, but the skills are certainly there to be so.
Did you watch the game??
Most of his yards required no passing skills. He would just scramble around a lot and throw to a wide open receiver or throw a jump ball to Mike Evans.
He doesn't make NFL throws like some of the other QB's mentioned.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:54 pm to Dr. Shultz
I can't see him sitting in the pocket very long in the NFL either.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:55 pm to Tiger022
Kiper sucks at this so that bodes for Mett in the draft. What has Kiper ever been right about?
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:00 pm to Bengalroar
Kiper is usually right about things that are fairly obvious.
Like the sun setting, or the sun rise.
Like the sun setting, or the sun rise.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:01 pm to Bengalroar
quote:
Kiper sucks at this so that bodes for Mett in the draft. What has Kiper ever been right about?
Enough to do this for a living.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:02 pm to Dr. Shultz
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Did you watch the game?? Most of his yards required no passing skills. He would just scramble around a lot and throw to a wide open receiver or throw a jump ball to Mike Evans. He doesn't make NFL throws like some of the other QB's mentioned
Of course I watched that game, and was very impressed with his competitiveness when he could have just given up hope.
Too many tangiables are taken into consideration nowadays in regards to potential for QB's. How many proto-type passers(ala JaMarcus?) have we seen fail at the next level?
It's the un-tangiables that make or break prospects, and I see Johnny Football as having plenty of those in regards to a possible future with tSaint's.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:15 pm to tiger4178
I would think some GMs are going to reflect on Mett's season and realize he was highly productive in the SEC, was coached by Cameron, and he played in more of an NFL style offense.
Cameron being the biggest factor.
Also why would Brees drop off? That makes no sense as he has no injury issues and other QBs continue to be productive such as Manning.
Cameron being the biggest factor.
Also why would Brees drop off? That makes no sense as he has no injury issues and other QBs continue to be productive such as Manning.
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