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Is there a more diverse offensive division in CFB than the Pac 12 North?

Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:12 am
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:12 am
Washington State- Air Raid
Oregon- Spread option
Washington- West coast
Stanford- Power/downhill running team
Oregon State- Pro style
Cal- Air Raid

It would suck to be a d coordinator to try and prepare for all the different styles.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 10:03 am
Posted by Sevendust912
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:13 am to
Damn Moustache, good post.

And at

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Utah- Clusterfrick
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:36 am to
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It would suck to be a d coordinator to try and prepare for all the different styles.


The only that's new to everyone was Wazzu, but they have a game of experience against them.

Utah isn't new to a couple of teams, had prior matchups pre realignment. The rest are all familiar by D coordinators.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:44 am to
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he only that's new to everyone was Wazzu, but they have a game of experience against them.

Utah isn't new to a couple of teams, had prior matchups pre realignment. The rest are all familiar by D coordinators.




Still though. Such a diverse range of styles. For instance in the SEC east it would be like this:

UGA--They like to run the ball and throw off playaction. *prepares game plan*
USCe-- They like to run the ball and throw on passing downs most of the time. Very similar plan to last week.
UF---They can throw every now and then, but they try to pound the ball at you. Only difference between them and UGA/USCe's running game is UF tries to throw a lot of exotic formations at you.
Vandy/UK/Mizzou/Tenn- They will all try to run a similar spread look. So D package will be roughly the same.

SEC West:

LSU- Pounds the ball and tries to throw off PA.
Bama- Same
Arkansas- Same
Ole Miss/MSU/Auburn- All run similar spread HUNH looks.
A&M- Air Raid with mobile QB. only wild card here.

It seems preparing your team to face these schemes would keep similar looks week to week and you'd really have to only prepare a base spread D and a base pro D.

Whereas in the Pac 12 North, you're facing Leach's Air raid, Oregon's spread option, UW's west coast, OSU Air Coryell, and then STanford's power I game. Just seems like a special preparation and package for each team moreso than usual.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:48 am to
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SEC West:

LSU- Pro style, power running
Bama- Pro style, power running
Arkansas- Power running, no passing
Miss St - Spread running, no effective passing
Ole Miss - Girls basketball on grass
Auburn - let's see how many formations and motions we can run to confuse the defense, while not caring about giving up huge sacks
A&M- backyard football, everybody go get open while JFF runs around in the backfield


fify

Posted by Pragmatic PiG
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:51 am to
Utah isn't in the PAC north, cal is and they're running the bear raid
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:56 am to
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Ole Miss - Girls basketball on grass


Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:01 am to
Awesome post, brosef.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:01 am to
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Such a diverse range of styles.


Agreed.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:02 am to
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Choupique19


So freaking spot on!
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:02 am to
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Utah isn't in the PAC north, cal is and they're running the bear raid


Aww shite. My bad.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:12 am to
I find the pac 12 pretty offensive.
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:18 am to
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It would suck to be a d coordinator to try and prepare for all the different styles.


I think the most difficult part is building a defense through recruiting to stop every one of those things. I've noticed that UW has had to try to change the defensive philosophy and recruit a different type of player.
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:29 am to
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Washington- West coast

Also, you'll notice that Washington has changed it's offensive philosophy this year pretty dramatically. We went to a hurry up no huddle offense with more of a quick passing game (bubble screens, etc.). Sark claims that it's the same playbook, just stripped down and ran incredibly fast. Either way, our offensive numbers have exploded this year. 3rd in the country behind Baylor and Oregon and just ahead of UCLA and Texas A&M.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:30 am to
I noticed the HUNH a lot when I saw them v. ILL, a lot of screens too. Also, lined up a ton in Shotgun (although I'm not sure how much they did that with Locker back in the day under Sark)
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:34 am to
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I noticed the HUNH a lot when I saw them v. ILL, a lot of screens too.

Oh yeah, you went to that game in Chicago, right? How was it?
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Also, lined up a ton in Shotgun (although I'm not sure how much they did that with Locker back in the day under Sark)

I think pretty much every play this season has been in the Shotgun or Pistol formation. Prior to this year, we still ran a lot of plays from behind center.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:37 am to
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I think the most difficult part is building a defense through recruiting to stop every one of those things. I've noticed that UW has had to try to change the defensive philosophy and recruit a different type of player.



What type of player do you recruit? If you recruit bigger/stronger guys to stop Stanford's run, you're left in the dust against Oregon.

If you recruit speed, you trucked the frick over by Stanford.

Honestly, I'd go with speed and recruit some tweeners to play LB.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:37 am to
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Oh yeah, you went to that game in Chicago, right? How was it?


It was awesome. Lot of UW fans there

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I think pretty much every play this season has been in the Shotgun or Pistol formation. Prior to this year, we still ran a lot of plays from behind center.


Which kind of makes since with KP, but I didn't realize how much they used SG with Sark. Clearly, it's worked pretty well.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:38 am to
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Sark claims that it's the same playbook, just stripped down and ran incredibly fast. Either way, our offensive numbers have exploded this year. 3rd in the country behind Baylor and Oregon and just ahead of UCLA and Texas A&M.



It is very similar to what he's been running with a few spread wrinkles here and there. Still impressive so far.
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:42 am to
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What type of player do you recruit? If you recruit bigger/stronger guys to stop Stanford's run, you're left in the dust against Oregon.

If you recruit speed, you trucked the frick over by Stanford.

Honestly, I'd go with speed and recruit some tweeners to play LB.

They're going with the long, rangy players and typically moving everyone down a level from their high school position (S to LB, LB to DE, DE to DT). All 3 starting LBs were Safeties coming out of high school.
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