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re: Ever been to a place with menus with no prices?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:24 pm to Roy Oldhafer
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:24 pm to Roy Oldhafer
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Ever been to a place with menus with no prices?
a soup kitchen?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:27 pm to hungryone
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Most servers I encounter have moved beyond the "hand the dude the check" attitude, fortunately.
I see the exact opposite. The check is almost always put in front of me and not in the center of the table.
I'm married so this doesn't matter of course.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:29 pm to AHouseDivided
I don't even let em put the bill down. I just hold up the card and don't even look at the waiter. They take it and prolly think Im a complete a-hole til they see the tip.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:32 pm to TyOconner
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I don't even let em put the bill down. I just hold up the card and don't even look at the waiter. They take it and prolly think Im a complete a-hole til they see the tip.
I do the same thing if others are with us and I want to pick up the tab.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:34 pm to hungryone
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I'd like to make my own food and beverage choices, thanks.
Don't be so offended I was just saying I'd find it sexy for him to do. He'd never choose my meal for me.. and rarely chooses drinks. Generally, he'll tell me what he's drinking and I'll want the same anyway (when it's wine).
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My tipping percentage will definitely be thinner when a server makes the mistaken assumption that I'm not the host of a business luncheon simply because I'm female (or short, LOL). Alpha male body language and/or gender aren't the best indicator of who's paying the tab. Most servers I encounter have moved beyond the "hand the dude the check" attitude, fortunately.
Again, try not to be so offended as it's probably just what the server assumes.. and the server is probably a kid just trying to do what they think is the right thing.
I'm not talking about alpha male attitude. I'm talking about the way someone talks to you when they are the one hosting/paying. It's VERY clear who is the head of a group by the way they don't sit back and say nothing to you.. they always talk to you directly and it's obvious they planned/are paying for the meal.
If you want the bill handed to you without acting like the person in charge, take the server aside and ask for the check.
You think it sounds simple, but I can't tell you how many times I've seen an angry black woman flip and call everyone racist because the check/her change was set on the table instead of her hands. Some servers feel they need to hand it directly to someone, and they assume the man. It's not a large enough deal to be feminazi over.. they're probably 18 and have no idea
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:45 pm to LouisianaLady
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It's not a large enough deal to be feminazi over..
What an ugly term. I'm simply pointing out that a good server should quickly learn (or be trained) not to make gender based assumptions in the year 2013. I'm not talking about high school and college kids at Chilis and its ilk, I'm referring to non-chain, from upscale casual & fine dining. Yes, subtle is hard, but it's what separates the pros from the part timers.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:51 pm to hungryone
I knew it would come off as a jab when it wasn't meant to be. It's a term I prefer to use when someone is upset over something gender-based. It's not meant to say anything about you as a person.
I just personally think there are things not worth being upset over.. and who the check is handed to is one. We are all humans.. nobody is reading anyone's mind. Cutting someone's tip who otherwise gave you great service because they handed the bill to the wrong person kinda erases everything good they did and seems really cut-throat.
Generally, the man pays. Probably 95% of people I wait on.. the man pays. Generalizations exist because of what generally happens.
Without laying the check on the middle of the table in "neutral zone", how else would they go about making it equal for a couple at an upscale place? Should they ask who is paying? (which would be weird). Should they automatically hand it to the woman? (but then wouldn't that still be an assumption with no backing?)
I just personally think there are things not worth being upset over.. and who the check is handed to is one. We are all humans.. nobody is reading anyone's mind. Cutting someone's tip who otherwise gave you great service because they handed the bill to the wrong person kinda erases everything good they did and seems really cut-throat.
Generally, the man pays. Probably 95% of people I wait on.. the man pays. Generalizations exist because of what generally happens.
Without laying the check on the middle of the table in "neutral zone", how else would they go about making it equal for a couple at an upscale place? Should they ask who is paying? (which would be weird). Should they automatically hand it to the woman? (but then wouldn't that still be an assumption with no backing?)
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:56 pm to Powerman
I don't think Joel Robuchon had prices on the menu when I went there.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:57 pm to yellowfin
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I don't think Joel Robuchon had prices on the menu when I went there.
In Vegas?
I wanted to go so bad!
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:59 pm to hungryone
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I'm simply pointing out that a good server should quickly learn (or be trained) not to make gender based assumptions in the year 2013.
If you didn't have such an obvious chip on your shoulder you wouldn't get so annoyed by such a minor occurrence in the year 2013.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:00 pm to LouisianaLady
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In Vegas?
yeah mgm grand
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:01 pm to LouisianaLady
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Without laying the check on the middle of the table in "neutral zone", how else would they go about making it equal for a couple at an upscale place? Should they ask who is paying? (which would be weird). Should they automatically hand it to the woman? (but then wouldn't that still be an assumption with no backing?)
The obvious solution is that every restaurant should establish a demilitarized zone in the EXACT center of every table identified by red tape. There should be a formal ceremony where the waitstaff places the check in the DMZ without looking at any party member which could insinuate who they think is paying.... /sarcasm
That or people who eat at restaurants could just quit getting their knickers in a bunch over where the check is placed, who gets the wine menu, or any other assortment of made up slights.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:05 pm to yellowfin
oh and check goes to oldest male at the table
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:08 pm to Powerman
I've been to restaurants where a few items are not priced on the menu. Won't even say market price.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:09 pm to yellowfin
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oh and check goes to oldest male at the table
I follow this at times too. It's all really circumstantial.
If the oldest male at the table is grandpappy with his breathing machine, he's likely not the one paying
I can tell when 40-year-old son is taking 80-year-old dad and all the kids and grandkids to dinner. But as I said before, the one paying (40-year-old dad) tends to talk to me directly a lot and make it clear he's the one paying.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:10 pm to Powerman
I have my own personal crew of chefs that cook for me at my estate. Their menus never have prices on it. Lol prices
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:11 pm to Sherman Klump
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You're bitter.
About something huh?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:14 pm to AHouseDivided
What's the old adage?
If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.
If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:16 pm to Degas
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If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.
Exactly.
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