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re: Chris paul.. 2nd best pg ever?
Posted on 8/21/13 at 4:58 pm to SPEEDY
Posted on 8/21/13 at 4:58 pm to SPEEDY
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Lets compare the two through their first 8 years as a NBA starter
...............PTS....AST....STL......FG%......3P%.....FT%....Win Shares
Paul.........18.6.....9.8......2.4......47.3%...35.6%...85.8%......103.0
Stockton...15.9....13.3......2.7.....52.0%...38.1%...82.7%......109.3
Paul has a higher PER, a higher REB %, a higher USG %, a lower TO %, higher Win Shares according to BR (103 to 87 with Paul playing ~100 less total minutes), and a higher WS/48 .244 to .206.
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It's personal preference- both are great along with Isaiah, Kidd, etc. But you can certainly argue that Paul is the 2nd best pg of all time based on what we've seen from him so far.
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 5:23 pm to corndeaux
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Paul has a higher PER, a higher REB %, a higher USG %, a lower TO %, higher Win Shares according to BR (103 to 87 with Paul playing ~100 less total minutes), and a higher WS/48 .244 to .206.
none of those stats really matter. They won't list those at his Hall of Fame induction. It will be "2nd all time in assists (probably 3rd), 2nd all time in steals, and the only PG to have 20,000 points and 10,000 assists (maybe)"
I don't think there's an argument yet that he can be the 2nd best pg of all time. Quit comparing him to stockton and compare him to Kidd.
they will probably be right by each other in assists and steals, CP will have more points, probably won't have a championship, or an MVP to help, he won't be anywhere near the rebounds of Kidd, and Kidd has a championship, 2 other championship appearances where he was the best player on the team, and he's 3rd on a list for 3 pointers behind Ray Allen and Reggie Miller, has made the all NBA team 6 times and all NBA defensive teams 9 times.
The more you look at Kidd's stats, the more you can make an argument that he may be the best PG over Stockton. IT's just hard to ignore Stockton way way ahead on the biggest stat that matters for PG's, assists
Posted on 8/21/13 at 10:36 pm to corndeaux
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Paul has a higher PER,
Most overrated, empty stat in all of sports.
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a higher REB %
We're talking about points who never played in the same NBA.
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a higher USG %
How is this an argument in Paul's favor? He uses the ball more yet does less with it.
Paul plays in easily the best/easiest era for PGs to play in. Paul, like LeBron is a stathound. He'll make a play or two a game sharing the ball that creates the illusion that he makes a team so much better, when in reality, he doesn't. He's great if you want your pg to fill a stat sheet. He's average if your goal is to win championships. If you aren't trying to win championships, then what's the point in playing?
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