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re: SI Offseason Grade: Pelicans...B-

Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by BobBarker
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:18 pm to
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Everyone on here can mock lottery picks, but they are the best value and the best way to build. If you would honestly say that you would rather a semi-proven vet in Evans making 12m a year over a lottery choice like McClemore making 4m a year


Give me the proven Evans over the unproven Mclemore any day of the week. Did you not see how terrible he was in the Summer League? He shot 33.3 percent and 3.6 turnovers a game. 19.4% from three. 19.4%. That's fricking atrocious. And that's not even mentioning the fact he is well below average on defense.

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veryone on here can mock lottery picks, but they are the best value and the best way to build


Yep, because the building through the lottery sure has made the Trailblazers, Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors, Clippers, and Kings real great competitors over the years. Don't mention the Thunder and Spurs. They are outliers. They got lucky with their picks and struck gold multiple times.

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. Lottery choices give you the flexibility to find star players and surround those stars with cheap salaries


We have our star player. We have now started to build around said star player.

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. They have capped themselves out with 2nd tier players in the hope that Davis becomes a superstar very quickly.


So Jrue Holliday is a second tier player. I would like to hear your' list of top tier point guards.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/13/13 at 11:54 pm to
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Give me the proven Evans over the unproven Mclemore any day of the week. Did you not see how terrible he was in the Summer League? He shot 33.3 percent and 3.6 turnovers a game. 19.4% from three. 19.4%. That's fricking atrocious. And that's not even mentioning the fact he is well below average on defense.


It was summer league. Some guys look good and some look bad. But he got better as it went on and was one of the top 3 players by the end. He also has a reputation as a great defender, so not sure where you are getting that. Evans is a better player, no doubt, but he cost 3x more and will be playing off the bench. That doesn't make sense to everybody, like I guess it does to you.

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Yep, because the building through the lottery sure has made the Trailblazers, Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors, Clippers, and Kings real great competitors over the years.


Some of those teams have been great at times as well. The Blazers had a monster team awhile back that they stacked through the draft and they are pretty good now. Chicago is a beast and almost all of their players are home grown. You have to be good everywhere (trades and FA), but the draft is the core. Or at least it should be.

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We have our star player. We have now started to build around said star player


So you have to do it in one off season? They couldn't add players over the next couple of seasons and gradually got better? Give Davis time to mature and develop a game, instead of putting it all on the line his 2nd year.. that's just foolish to me.

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So Jrue Holliday is a second tier player. I would like to hear your' list of top tier point guards.


How many tiers do you think there are? I'm thinking like 4 or 5, so 2nd is pretty good. I don't think he is in Paul's range, he is a step below and that is still good. He's a step above Vasquez, but I don't think he's 5x better than him (which is how much more he makes).

I have read and agree that you don't build through high pay mid level players (8-12m a year guys). You kill the cap. If you have a superstar you pay them, otherwise you stockpile guys on rookie contracts and mid-level exception type contracts (around 6m a year). Otherwise you have a bunch of medicore talent and will have a medicore team.
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