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Highly speculative US 2018 line-up
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:12 pm
What site do you guys use to create line-ups? I came up with a couple of US line-ups for 2018 and I think even with the retirement of Dempsey, Cherundolo, Donovan, and Howard (all of which seem likely by then), this could be a hell of a player pool we have.
I used the American Soccer Now template but that's only good for their site, right?
Here is a boring text representation of the "A-team"
Jozy
Corona Johannsoon
Gil-Bradley (C)-Mix
F. Johnson Besler Brooks Chandler
Guzan
Guzan is 33, Bradley is 31 I believe, everyone else is in their mid to late 20s, right in their prime.
With a bench of Johnson, Hamid, Omar, Geoff Cameron, Lichaj, Yedlin, Bedoya, Shea, Torres, Zusi, Villareal, Aguedelo, and Boyd and guys like Gatt, Danny Williams, George John, and Will Bruin looking for spots in case someone is out of form or injured, this would be an unbelievably deep player pool.
Keep in mind this doesn't even cover the super speculative guys like Julian Green, Bobby Wood, Alejandro Guido, Joe Gyau, and people we haven't even heard of yet.
I used the American Soccer Now template but that's only good for their site, right?
Here is a boring text representation of the "A-team"
Jozy
Corona Johannsoon
Gil-Bradley (C)-Mix
F. Johnson Besler Brooks Chandler
Guzan
Guzan is 33, Bradley is 31 I believe, everyone else is in their mid to late 20s, right in their prime.
With a bench of Johnson, Hamid, Omar, Geoff Cameron, Lichaj, Yedlin, Bedoya, Shea, Torres, Zusi, Villareal, Aguedelo, and Boyd and guys like Gatt, Danny Williams, George John, and Will Bruin looking for spots in case someone is out of form or injured, this would be an unbelievably deep player pool.
Keep in mind this doesn't even cover the super speculative guys like Julian Green, Bobby Wood, Alejandro Guido, Joe Gyau, and people we haven't even heard of yet.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:18 pm to Keys Open Doors
Besler will be 31-ish as well.
As we go forward, each WC cycle we should be choosing from a deeper and deeper pool, unless something drastic happens, like the MLS folding or something.
As we go forward, each WC cycle we should be choosing from a deeper and deeper pool, unless something drastic happens, like the MLS folding or something.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:19 pm to Keys Open Doors
This list is no good without Jack Mac
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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crazy4lsu
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the MLS
You're better than this
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:24 pm to crazy4lsu
Sometimes it doesn't work that way though, for whatever reason. Turkey has sucked since their late 90s generation. Belgium sucked for the past 15 years, same with Colombia, although both are now back. The Netherlands player pool will be much weaker in 2-3 years than at any time in the past two decades. The late 90s and very early 2000 German teams were the worst in a 30 year period although they quickly rebounded, and all of this is despite an enhanced pool with immigration and reunification.
It's good to see the US shouldn't be falling any time in the near future.
Anyways, what site do you guys use for line ups?
It's good to see the US shouldn't be falling any time in the near future.
Anyways, what site do you guys use for line ups?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:24 pm to sawillis
What I do? Use the article when I shouldn't have?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:24 pm to TheZaba
No OLASDM, but maybe Nagbe by then
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:26 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:I was messing with you but yes. It would be like saying "unless the major league soccer folded.:
What I do? Use the article when I shouldn't have?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:28 pm to Keys Open Doors
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but maybe Nagbe by then
Nagbe could be the new soccer board Stu for 2018...can see it coming.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:28 pm to Keys Open Doors
It should work that way for the U.S. for the next couple of cycles, especially if our youth system improves.
I don't mean to imply deeper means better. We'd be lucky to have players the caliber of Donovan, Bradley and Dempsey at the same time ever again. But I look at the 2018 squad and see we have lots of players at similar skill levels, which is unusual for us.
I don't mean to imply deeper means better. We'd be lucky to have players the caliber of Donovan, Bradley and Dempsey at the same time ever again. But I look at the 2018 squad and see we have lots of players at similar skill levels, which is unusual for us.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:32 pm to crazy4lsu
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But I look at the 2018 squad and see we have lots of players at similar skill levels, which is unusual for us.
We as a soccer nation have finally hit the tipping point I think. Thanks to MLS teams and US Soccer taking development more seriously, the days of 10 untouchable players and a bunch of regular dudes going to the world cup may be over.
Getting on that roster will be a fight.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:35 pm to crazy4lsu
What is slightly concerning is that we don't have a player of the caliber of Dempsey, Donovan, Bradley, etc in the pipeline, at least not one who stands out as obviously as they did.
Maybe Jozy... but that might be it.
That said, Dempsey didn't really develop until later, but Donovan and Bradley both had shown by age 20 that they were something special.
Maybe Jozy... but that might be it.
That said, Dempsey didn't really develop until later, but Donovan and Bradley both had shown by age 20 that they were something special.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:36 pm to Keys Open Doors
No Freddy Adu or Beniesta, No care.
Eta: Bradley at 31 will be Pirlo esque, Jozy should be prime. I like it, we will have some real slick midfielders
Eta: Bradley at 31 will be Pirlo esque, Jozy should be prime. I like it, we will have some real slick midfielders
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:40 pm to cwil177
10 yrs ago, Luis Gil would have already been called up, as would Jack Mac and others. Luis Gil balled out at the U 20s and I think he is a special, special prospect.
There are some young players coming through MLS right now that can fill some of the voids.
There are some young players coming through MLS right now that can fill some of the voids.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:41 pm to Keys Open Doors
Wouldn't Gil be better at one of the wing positions?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:43 pm to pvilleguru
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Wouldn't Gil be better at one of the wing positions?
In the U-20s he played the Dempsey role. He plays out wide for RSL, but plays centrally when Morales isn't available.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:48 pm to cwil177
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That said, Dempsey didn't really develop until later, but Donovan and Bradley both had shown by age 20 that they were something special.
The standards are much higher now, but that's not denying Donovan and Bradley were special players as teenagers. Bradley was a physical specimen as a 17 year old, and Donovan was superb at the U-17 WC. We need IMG to step up and produce someone else like that. But I suspect that with the evolution of youth academies, we are in a generational gap with young, first team ready players.
To think, this incoming class of 96, 17 year olds, will not have known a time there wasn't professional soccer in the U.S. That should mean great things for the youths born after that as well, so we can hope we will have a prodigy or two between this WC and the next.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 9:52 pm to Keys Open Doors
Other guys that I think will be in the picture: Jóhansson, Zardes, Gil, Yedlin, McInerney, Nagbe, Corona, D. Williams, Kitchen, Gatt, Corona, Bedoya, Junior Flores, among others obviously. Besler will hopefully still be in the picture too. Also hopefully Zusi can still be in the starting XI. I had to be a little biased and put him in .
I wasn't sure which MLS guys to include in the XI since there are so many young guys that can turn out to be stars and make the move to Europe, so I left most of them out.
I am very hopeful in my lineup, obviously, with the likes of Green and Zelalem since they will be young but 1) hopefully they will choose the USA and 2) hopefully they will be good enough. But I am sure they will be good enough considering they are already making a splash at Bayern and Arsenal but you can't be too sure.
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 9:55 pm
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