re: Barry Larkin says no one associated with PEDs will be elected to HOF

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There are plenty of failed drug tests and confessions of illegal drug use. Stop this silly crap.

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Then line it up to the specific players. People in this thread are keeping out guys like Bagwell because we just know they used. Point to the evidence, specific to each player.

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They'll be voted on. If they don't make it, tough shite.

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Sure. That's the standard now. But there's always the back door (the Veteran's Committee). And the HoF has shown throughout its history it has no problem forming committees to elect people or simply changing the rules of induction. So long as they have good ceremonies and keep attendance up, they will have no problem keeping people out. but this is a private museum that needs funds. They need people to come to their museum. and if people stop coming, or more accurately, come in lower numbers, then there will be immense pressure for the HOF to put in this era of players.

Actually, I think the players most harmed by the steroid era, relative to the Hall, are the 1980s players. Their numbers no longer look as impressive and they were robbed of a longer decline phase to pad their numbers as they were displaced by juicers. Guys like Dale Murphy, Lou Whittaker, Bobby Grich, and Alan Trammel are getting kept out as well by steroids.

I'd rather anti-drug crusaders take up the cause of putting people IN the Hall instead of keeping them out. Take up Whittaker's cause or something. Otherwise, it's just a cranky old man way of yelling get off my lawn, and how kids today don't belong with the greats of my youth.

And they didn't "tear up the record book". Every era has its own quirks. The game changes and evolves. the 1960s pitching records are absurd as 1990s hitting records. You just make a mental adjustment. In the 1930s, nearly a third of the league hit 300. Every era has its own style and statistical quirks and trends. There's never been a flat baseline.