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Posted on 7/4/13 at 7:56 am to Elleshoe
Really Elleshoe? Did u say this? Get a clue or just take down your stupid post and save your embarassment.
Michigan's AD, who is under the gun with his Rich Rod hire, and his seat is on fire offers Miles, who is in the NC, a package that is not better than what he already had? They're freaking Michigan dude one of the true big boys. Thats not the way things work in any business that Im aware of.
Use some common sense or put yourself in their position. Headlines: Miles turns down Michigan offer after being insulted and offered a pay cut! Im sure that would've cooled his seat and made the Michigan alumni proud. You have zero leverage and Miles has all the leverage coming off his NC win and u dont offer him a better package to seal this deal? Im sure Les and his agent were sitting around saying lets both take a pay cut because well just because.
The fact is, the man decided to stay with us and dis his Alma Mater, an easier place to win and for what im led to believe was substantially more money. We should never forget this and he should be applauded for not doing what Nicky, Chippy or Urban wouldve done.
Michigan's AD, who is under the gun with his Rich Rod hire, and his seat is on fire offers Miles, who is in the NC, a package that is not better than what he already had? They're freaking Michigan dude one of the true big boys. Thats not the way things work in any business that Im aware of.
Use some common sense or put yourself in their position. Headlines: Miles turns down Michigan offer after being insulted and offered a pay cut! Im sure that would've cooled his seat and made the Michigan alumni proud. You have zero leverage and Miles has all the leverage coming off his NC win and u dont offer him a better package to seal this deal? Im sure Les and his agent were sitting around saying lets both take a pay cut because well just because.
The fact is, the man decided to stay with us and dis his Alma Mater, an easier place to win and for what im led to believe was substantially more money. We should never forget this and he should be applauded for not doing what Nicky, Chippy or Urban wouldve done.
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/4/13 at 7:59 am to LSUANDY25
the first time he was offered I'm almost positive it was less. Maybe the second go 'round was more.
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 8:01 am
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:03 am to Elleshoe
The first time some folks said the offer was a insult
The second time was a brinks truck
So 50/50
His brand solidified in those years, even with the 08 issues.
The second time was a brinks truck
So 50/50
His brand solidified in those years, even with the 08 issues.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:04 am to Elleshoe
When he took the job I was an LSU fanatic, recruiting, offseason, the whole nine yards. Today I watch the games and hope they win but am no longer invested like I once was. Once he leaves I will return to being a die hard, bleeding purple and gold, in other words he killed my fanship.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:08 am to danfraz
quote:
Are you bi-polar
Actually.
Also
quote:
Bipolar
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:09 am to MarlinMan
Love less but we should have at least 2 or 3 or 4 more BCSNC.
2005 (bad tennesse comeback) 2006 (florida) 2011 (Bama rematch) and 2012 (piss poor execution at Florida and Bama comeback).
I might even go out on a limb and say we could have contended in 2012 if not for th
2005 (bad tennesse comeback) 2006 (florida) 2011 (Bama rematch) and 2012 (piss poor execution at Florida and Bama comeback).
I might even go out on a limb and say we could have contended in 2012 if not for th
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:13 am to GREENHEAD22
quote:You weren't a "die hard" or at least my definition of a die hard anyway. I'd call what you described yourself as is "fair-weather." A die hard is a fan who bleeds purple and gold no matter the circumstances. Whether they're good or they're bad. Guess, we'll see you celebrating with the rest of us when we hoist up another trophy.
When he took the job I was an LSU fanatic, recruiting, offseason, the whole nine yards. Today I watch the games and hope they win but am no longer invested like I once was. Once he leaves I will return to being a die hard, bleeding purple and gold, in other words he killed my fanship.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:15 am to Ironhead985
My fandom didn't waiver during the hallman years so I don't get peeps like that
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:17 am to danfraz
quote:This. If you started being a fan when Saban became head coach then you're probably spoiled. You have to go through the bad times to truly appreciate the good ones.
My fandom didn't waiver during the hallman years so I don't get peeps like that
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:17 am to Ironhead985
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when we hoist up another trophy.
that's gonna be a while... not this year for sure. not next year with a first year starter at QB.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:18 am to MarlinMan
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-95+ % of all games are close (includes good and bad teams)
2011 team disagrees!
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:19 am to Elleshoe
Look into your crystal ball and tell us where to invest our pennies oh karnac
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:21 am to bulldog95
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Love less but we should have at least 2 or 3 or 4 more BCSNC.
2005 (bad tennesse comeback) 2006 (florida) 2011 (Bama rematch) and 2012 (piss poor execution at Florida and Bama comeback).
I'll give you 2006, 2011(obviously, since we played there) and possibly 2012. But 2005 was a whirlwind of a season with Katrina. The fact that he was able to win the "home" game at ASU was pretty damn impressive. Then he had us up big in the first half against Tenn, but pressure got to him and everyone on the team. In my opinion he gets a pass for that season.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:21 am to danfraz
I mean man, we can have hope, but try to be reasonable. Hell, every year I think we're going to have a great basketball team but sometimes you have to be realistic.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:24 am to Elleshoe
I know man
Reality is with the talent level on board it could happen
And final four or bust this year bitches!!!!!
ETA: if all thing were equal in the sec maybe it would be easier to say it as well
Reality is with the talent level on board it could happen
And final four or bust this year bitches!!!!!
ETA: if all thing were equal in the sec maybe it would be easier to say it as well
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 8:28 am
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:25 am to Elleshoe
quote:A freshman just won the Heisman and another freshman just led his team to the national title game. I think we have a chance to be pretty good when Jennings takes over in 2014'.
that's gonna be a while... not this year for sure. not next year with a first year starter at QB.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:29 am to MarlinMan
Oh, look, it's another Les is an enigma thread. I mean,just the fact that people can't even basically agree on whether or not the guy is a 'decent', (not even great) coach should tell you something.
Bottom line, the guy does more to damage his own and LSU's brand than any fan or website. For every 2 or 3 really good things that he does, he does at least 1 more to undo the good stuff. You have to take the bad with the good with him. Agree for the most part with the OP, he has done some good things but then turns around and lays an egg just as quickly.
Bottom line, the guy does more to damage his own and LSU's brand than any fan or website. For every 2 or 3 really good things that he does, he does at least 1 more to undo the good stuff. You have to take the bad with the good with him. Agree for the most part with the OP, he has done some good things but then turns around and lays an egg just as quickly.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:39 am to MarlinMan
If les has been here for 8 years then I feel like Jlee and JJ have been here for 6. I almost associate Les's career with those 2 QB's. I'm not saying its good or bad but as much as those 3 names have been mentioned together its hard not to.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:41 am to MarlinMan
I was underwhelmed by the first impression. His start on the sidelines was similarly underwhelming as in his first are second game he tried to call a time out with the clock stopped at a very important juncture of the game and one of the sideline extras had to check and stop him from doing it. I cringed.
It has taken me some time to get past that first impression and his ongoing issues with articulating.
I really thought 2008 and 2009 were the beginning of what I feared would be a slow downward spiral. I thought there were signs of a program a bit out of control. I to this day think those signs were legit issues.
That continued at the beginning of 2010. It was pretty ugly going into that Florida game. That ball bouncing our way on the fake FG was huge. I truly believe environment has a significant affect on performance and had that ball bounced wrong and we lost, it would have gotten very ugly in B.R.
But it went our way, the win energized the team and fan base and to Les's credit, he's kept it together better than I ever thought he could.
He gets credit from me for that. I can honestly say that 8 years ago I thought he was gonna be over his head here. While at times he has, for the most part he's handled the enormity of it.
I still have concerns and I'm certainly not one of the ring-kissers that think Les is a calculated genius who plays a dim-witted Columbo to fool his enemies. I think he truly is what you see.
But he's gotten the job done relatively speaking. I have never once called for his firing and I never will. He's exceeded in actual production what my perception of him would dictate that production to be.
It has taken me some time to get past that first impression and his ongoing issues with articulating.
I really thought 2008 and 2009 were the beginning of what I feared would be a slow downward spiral. I thought there were signs of a program a bit out of control. I to this day think those signs were legit issues.
That continued at the beginning of 2010. It was pretty ugly going into that Florida game. That ball bouncing our way on the fake FG was huge. I truly believe environment has a significant affect on performance and had that ball bounced wrong and we lost, it would have gotten very ugly in B.R.
But it went our way, the win energized the team and fan base and to Les's credit, he's kept it together better than I ever thought he could.
He gets credit from me for that. I can honestly say that 8 years ago I thought he was gonna be over his head here. While at times he has, for the most part he's handled the enormity of it.
I still have concerns and I'm certainly not one of the ring-kissers that think Les is a calculated genius who plays a dim-witted Columbo to fool his enemies. I think he truly is what you see.
But he's gotten the job done relatively speaking. I have never once called for his firing and I never will. He's exceeded in actual production what my perception of him would dictate that production to be.
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