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re: Where would you rank LBJ on the all time List Right Now??
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:16 pm to shel311
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:16 pm to shel311
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Because we're talking about the best players of all times, not the best teams.
Ok here ya go......
MJ
Magic
Russell
Oscar
Hakeem
Kareem
Bron
Kobe
Bird
Shaq
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Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:20 pm to shel311
Lebron shouldn't even be in that category with those guys until he's won more ships. I mean I have been watching these last two games and I know he has scored 30 plus from just primarily jumpshots and put backs, but there is so many opportunities for him to just take Paul George or Stephenson to the rim and get them in foul trouble or just downright slam over them and dominate. But instead he passes off or settles for those jumpers and it's just frustrating because you know those guys can't stop him if he wanted to. Just look what he did the first game on the last two possessions, exactly that.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:22 pm to tubucoco
He shot 14 of 20 fwiw, what are you expecting, 24 of 25?
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:23 pm to shel311
You are missing my whole point. I'm talkin about him going to the damn basket more often. The opportunities are there.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:25 pm to tubucoco
I agree that LeBron should go to the rim more often. He is incredible because he can force contact yet still finish the play.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:26 pm to shel311
quote:If he was on MJ's level he would have not let his teams lose in 2011 and 2007.
Because we're talking about the best players of all times, not the best teams.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:26 pm to tubucoco
I think you're completely not factoring in how the Pacers are defending him. When you drive, and 2 extra defenders come out to meet you, you simply can't get to the rim every time like youre suggesting.
If they're going to completely collapse and leave 3 point shooters wide open, the pass is the correct basketball play.
If they're going to completely collapse and leave 3 point shooters wide open, the pass is the correct basketball play.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:27 pm to tgr4ever
quote:so that's 1 player ahead of him.
If he was on MJ's level he would have not let his teams lose in 2011 and 2007.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:28 pm to tgr4ever
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If he was on MJ's level he would have not let his teams lose in 2011 and 2007.
AGREED. I look at how a player makes others around them better.... My list shows this..........
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:28 pm to tgr4ever
MJ didn't win a championship until 7 years after he entered the league. Look how early LeBron made it to the Finals into his career.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:29 pm to shel311
We're watching the wrong games then. They have doubled in some cases, but most times George has been left guarding him, he can easily muscle past this guy who is light in the arse and go to the rim. He can get them in foul trouble as well as finish at the rim. But in most cases he either passes it off or shoots that jumper. he can really dominate if he just went to the rim more often.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:29 pm to SabiDojo
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Look how early LeBron made it to the Finals into his career.
Ok SO?????? He DESN'T make players BETTER around him the way MJ did... A PURE SIMPLE FACT...........
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:30 pm to SabiDojo
quote:somehow the logic has become that leading a team to the finals at 21 and getting swept is not as good as not leading a team to a finals.
MJ didn't win a championship until 7 years after he entered the league. Look how early LeBron made it to the Finals into his career.
Not sure how we arrived at that one.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:31 pm to tubucoco
quote:Definitely not watching the same game.
We're watching the wrong game then
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:31 pm to dukke v
LeBron doesn't make the players around him better? Did you ever see him play in Cleveland? He made Mo Williams and Varejao look like all stars.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:34 pm to SabiDojo
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He made Mo Williams and Varejao look like all stars.
Varejao was averaging 14/14 before he got injured this year.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:34 pm to shel311
Definitely because what I have seen is George guarding him a lot who he can easily get past to the rim. Instead he just dribbles out in front of him like he wants to go to the rim, but then passes off to another teammate or shoots a J. There is just to many opportunities to take George, it's what he did in Game 1 and won the game.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:36 pm to SabiDojo
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He made Mo Williams and Varejao look like all stars.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:36 pm to tubucoco
And what happens the moment Lebron takes 2 steps towards the rim? Don't say no one collapses because that would be incorrect.
Not to mention Lebron hasn't been going iso all that much in this series anyway. It's mostly pick and rolls and post ups and that little screen where he cuts to the paint as the ball is passed to him.
Not to mention Lebron hasn't been going iso all that much in this series anyway. It's mostly pick and rolls and post ups and that little screen where he cuts to the paint as the ball is passed to him.
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