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re: Dell Demps

Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:43 am to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10128 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:43 am to
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You're saying this like it's a good thing.


I was using it as an example that things do move on. Anyone can be moved at any time.

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I don't understand why so many people wanted to be mediocre this season


I get the tear it down and totally tank to build the foundation. But IMO the foundation is set around Davis. There will be other players added over time, but he is the centerpiece. I don't want him playing on a team totally devoid of any talent or experienced players. And we don't need to keep going to the lottery to find compliments to him.

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which it wouldn't get by winning more games and having its cap space still being taken up by Ariza and Okafor.


Someone on the team has to get paid. If you have a ton of young/cheap players, how are you going to reach the salary floor? You can get there with dead money or players that actually contribute.

Also, I'm glad the team won the lottery last year, but I don't want to be in it again. I want to be in the play offs, every year. If someone can actually prove to me that the more lottery picks you have, the better you are, then I'll change my mind. But I think it is a bad plan..
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
118989 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:52 am to
When you are rebuilding, you rebuild.

You completely tear down the roster to give yourself a blank slate. You do that so at ANY time, you can add more talent via trade. You can add more talent in the offseason...or you can wait until the season, or the following offseason.

You get your young players as many minutes as possible. You try out players that weren't given a shot elsewhere.

You save your owner some money in a shitty year. I know that some fans don't want to think like this, but its an economic reality and a plus. Get over it.

Its all about flexibility in the rebuild. And Okafor and Ariza were anchors around our neck. You shed all the guys you can that are in no way part of a long term process. Move on.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62060 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:09 am to
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And we don't need to keep going to the lottery to find compliments to him.


Draft picks are merely assets and the 5th pick is a much better trade asset than the 12th pick. For example, if Boston performs well in the playoffs without Rondo I could see them trading him for a package built around our pick, if we had the 12th pick they probably wouldn't be interested. Monty is definitely frustrated with all the young guys so unless a guy they love is on the board I'm sure Demps will be working the phones.

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Someone on the team has to get paid. If you have a ton of young/cheap players, how are you going to reach the salary floor?


Next years goals and expectations will be completely different. Anything short of fighting for the 8th seed will be a huge disappointment. If you don't use the cap space available on a FA or trade target then you simply make a Carl Landry type of signing and overpay a useful guy for one year.

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If someone can actually prove to me that the more lottery picks you have, the better you are, then I'll change my mind. But I think it is a bad plan..


I don't think there's a single poster that's hopped on the 2014 tank. Most weren't on board to start this season but when it was obvious our new core wasn't as good as we had hoped then ping pong balls became more valuable than wins to many. This is a big offseason for Demps. If he does a good job then he and Monty are probably safe, if he does a bad job they both may be on their way out.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34650 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:15 am to
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I was using it as an example that things do move on. Anyone can be moved at any time.



Yeah, but expirings have very little value in the NBA since the new CBA. See Chris Kaman.
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