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re: Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme—the Internet’s favorite currency will collapse.

Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by WikiTiger
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:58 pm to
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Link in the OP you lazy cock.


That's an opinion piece. He asked for facts.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:03 pm to
What's wrong with a dating service for senior citizens, a third party food delivery service or a high end porn service? I wonder how many of the potential customers of OKCupid even know what Bitcoins are, and more improtantly, how many of them understand Bitcoins? Wiki has asserted that older people are opposed to BItcoins because they don't understand the technology involved. Now he is trumpeting a company who has nothing but elderly customers as the latest business to accept Bitcoins. Does something not quite add up?
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:05 pm to
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a dating service for senior citizens


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I wonder how many of the potential customers of OKCupid even know what Bitcoins are


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Now he is trumpeting a company who has nothing but elderly customers as the latest business to accept Bitcoins




WTF?

Do you even know what OKCupid is? You are seriously retarded if you think it's for old people.


Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:08 pm to
The article linked in the OP all but admits bitcoins are NOT a ponzi scheme:

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A real Ponzi scheme takes fraud; bitcoin, by contrast, seems more like a collective delusion



So please provide facts. I shall wait patiently.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:11 pm to
A "Free" dating site that accepts bitcoins as payment? Sounds like OKcupid thinks bitcoins are worthless too
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:26 pm to
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A "Free" dating site that accepts bitcoins as payment? Sounds like OKcupid thinks bitcoins are worthless too


Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 6:28 am to
If I had hard evidence, I'd turn it over to the SEC. But since I don't get paid to be a detective, and truly believe that anybody who gets screwed by being involved in Bitcoin is getting what they deserve, I won't devote my time to gathering hard evidence.

In my opinion, bitcoin is more of a pump and dump than a true Ponzi. Russian has linked numerous examples of bitcoin "believers" posting comments that they know it's a scam but since they understand the scam they are going to be ok. Those type of comments are famous last words of ponzi scheme victims.

Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:19 am to
So the ponzi talk is all speculation. ok gotcha
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:26 am to
Until it collapses and charges are brought, of course it's speculative. Did you have a point?
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:42 am to
My point is that it's a laughable accusation.

Bitcoins may be a scam, but they're not a Ponzi scheme.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127306 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:50 am to
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Bitcoins may be a scam, but they're not a Ponzi scheme.
Yes, it is.

Fool's Gold: Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme—the Internet’s favorite currency will collapse.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:05 am to
Poor Simon....

LINK
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11675 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:05 am to
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A real Ponzi scheme takes fraud; bitcoin, by contrast, seems more like a collective delusion

Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11675 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:08 am to
Simon ain't really poor.


quote:

Lang first began investing in Bitcoins two years ago, when they were worth around $20 apiece. Over the span of a month-and-a-half, he invested about $4,000.



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"I don't see this as a short-term investment," said Lang, who expects Bitcoin prices to gradually recover in a couple months. Already his stake is worth about $20,000 again thanks to a small rebound.

Posted by OnTheBrink
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:12 am to
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Simon ain't really poor.


Wasn't really saying he was. More or less saying the poor guy (1) did not get out while he still could and (2) does not plan to get out anytime soon.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127306 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:13 am to
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. A Ponzi scheme collapses when people realize that earlier investors are being paid out of the investments of later investors rather than from the returns on an underlying asset.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11675 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:28 am to
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A real Ponzi scheme takes fraud; bitcoin, by contrast, seems more like a collective delusion

Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11675 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:33 am to
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A Ponzi scheme collapses when people realize that earlier investors are being paid out of the investments of later investors rather than from the returns on an underlying asset.


I'm aware of what a ponzi scheme is, thank you. What does this have to do with bitcoin?
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:36 am to
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:37 am to
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A real Ponzi scheme takes fraud; bitcoin, by contrast, seems more like a collective delusion


it's sad when their own links dispute their assertion


and I agree with you gizmo.....they should feel free to call it a scam, but to specifically call it a ponzi scheme is the epitome of ignorance, or perhaps a deliberate spread of FUD
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 8:57 am
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