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re: Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme—the Internet’s favorite currency will collapse.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:20 am to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:20 am to Vols&Shaft83
bitcoin the only thing the government doesnt control yet unless they buy huge amounts and sell them like what happened yesterday. thats the only problem. it will be like a seesaw as far as value is concerned.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 8:51 am to Doc Fenton
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I'm not really sure why anybody would think that it does.
just playing along. not sure if bitcoins is or not, I did not make that claim, but we know SS is!
Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:58 am to el duderino III
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And it really doesn't matter that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Eventually the price will collapse, they speculators will abandon ship, and it will begin to function as a currency.
I think it absolutely matters. If you're an average person, hell, even if you have above-average intelligence, the technology can seem pretty opaque. If on top of that, you have lots of people who did nothing wrong (other than put real money into this) lose there shirts I can't see it ever being widely accepted and used as an actual currency when it's barely that today.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:22 pm to ZereauxSum
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I think it absolutely matters. If you're an average person, hell, even if you have above-average intelligence, the technology can seem pretty opaque. If on top of that, you have lots of people who did nothing wrong (other than put real money into this) lose there shirts I can't see it ever being widely accepted and used as an actual currency when it's barely that today.
Wiki disagrees with you....
Photo courtesy of the OT....
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:41 pm to lsu_tiger_az
I borrowed your idea and added a little something.
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:51 pm to LSURussian
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I borrowed your idea and added a little something.
Not my idea, I just borrowed it...
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Well played....
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:07 am to Vols&Shaft83
Stuart Varney on fox business is ripping this "bitcoin entrepreneur" a new a-hole basically mocking him for wanting to launch a bitcoin ATM network.......hopefully we can get a youtube video shortly
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:55 am to ThaBigFella
Jeff Berwick is his name. He's a cool guy.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:09 pm to joshnorris14
the best part was stuart varney saying if bitcoins go up in smoke he has no idea whose in charge vs the US dollar he knows where bernanke lives lol
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:49 pm to ThaBigFella
This thread is awesome
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:18 pm to CP3LSU25
New Krugman column on bitcoin: The Antisocial Network
Rebuttal to Krugman: Bitcoin Is Not Antisocial: A Rebuttal to Paul Krugman
My prediction: 75% of posters in this thread only read the Krugman article for the confirmation bias and ignore the rebuttal.
Rebuttal to Krugman: Bitcoin Is Not Antisocial: A Rebuttal to Paul Krugman
My prediction: 75% of posters in this thread only read the Krugman article for the confirmation bias and ignore the rebuttal.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:24 pm to WikiTiger
<-----is not reading either. I can't form a coherent sentence with a dictionary. Why try shite like reading.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:35 pm to WikiTiger
Bitcoin is an interesting concept, may even be a breakthrough, but anyone that thinks at this point in time that this type of currency has any real value is delusional...don't know why anyone would even write an article about it other than to explore the tech.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:19 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Yet history shows that private currencies always end in tears; if central banks sometimes abuse the trust we place in them, the alternatives are worse.
Considering this is one of my academic areas of expertise, I can tell you this amateur is completely wrong. Private coinage and currency, absent government restrictions and legal tender laws, have always provided a far stabler and highly sought after medium of exchange. Markets chose commodity monies such as gold and silver precisely because they put a rigid constraint on the government's ability manipulate and debase money for its own gain.
The argument for Bitcoin is not that it, itself, is the best possible medium of exchange, but that the competition that competitive money provides will help individuals choose the best money for them rather than having to rely on the historically atrocious record of government money. Though I'm skeptical the long term solution will be competing fiat currencies, the competition the produce will certainly be beneficial.
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:23 pm to cwill
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Bitcoin is an interesting concept, may even be a breakthrough, but anyone that thinks at this point in time that this type of currency has any real value is delusional...don't know why anyone would even write an article about it other than to explore the tech.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:52 pm to el duderino III
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huge demand for bitcoin already exists in argentina. They are desperate for anything that wont depreciate like their pesos do every day.
Yeah, but the problem is that it's a shitty deal, because whoever sells a bitcoin for pesos can't convert those pesos back into dollars at a reasonable rate, due to the horrid capital controls. That's why you see the big price premium, which is not a good thing, but a bad thing.
The big problem with a P2P network is that there is no central management to raise demand for the currency for use in domestic transactions, like a Visa or MasterCard could do with their credit cards. It's hard to accomplish a bitcoin promotion campaign to get vendors to catch on when there is no bitcoin management to execute such a campaign, and even if such a campaign did exist, there might be legal cause for the SEC or other financial authorities to get involved.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:54 pm to Doc Fenton
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(and I also think that gold price is currently somewhere between 2-3 times more expensive than where it usually is in historical terms)
... and a little less now
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