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re: Better player: 26 year old Scottie Pippen or 31 year old DWADE
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:07 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:07 pm to Lester Earl
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That is PER- player efficiency rating!!! you dumb frick.
Mostly defense isn't measured in the NBA. However, let's dig:
1) Wade's career usage %: 32.2
Pippen's career usage %: 22.5
Wade's lowest usage year (rookie) : 25.0
Scottie topped 25% usage twice : 93-94, 94-95 (aka the 1.5 years Jordan retired) and maxed out at only 27.1. Wade uses the ball more.
Dwayne Wade has two seasons under 30% usage rating this year(29.7) and his rookie year
PER rewards offensive players
2) Wade's highest number of Defensive Win Shares:4.7
Pippen: 6.7
Scottie Pippen topped 5.0 Defensive Win Shares 6 times in his career. The only two perimiter player with more defenisve win shares are Jason Kidd and Hondo (and Dr.J taking in his ABA career)
at age 31 so far Wade has a total(offense[5.4]+ defense[2.4]) equal to 7.8 with a WS/48m% of .197 through 55 games.
at age 31 Scottie Pippen played 82 games had at total Wins Shares of 13(O[7.8] D[5.2])with a WS/48m at .203.
Pippen is the (one of the)best wing defender of all time and Wade's defense isn't what you think it is.
Pippen > Wade.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:09 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:seems like Wade's offense isn't quite fading like you think it is also, though.
and Wade's defense isn't what you think it is.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 6:44 pm to RonBurgundy
Usage rate is not a knock when you are a SG that shoots 50% from the floor.
Had Pippen touched the ball more & shot more, he still wouldn't be Wade's equal because he is not as efficient scoring the ball.
For instance his poor shooting performance in the playoffs the year MJ took off.
I never denied Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time; he had that luxury of playing next to MJ, focusing a lot of his attention on defense.
None of what you posted proved a point, im sorry to say. DWAdes usage rate is not a negative. For instance, he dominated the ball in the 06' playoffs & led his team to a title. You going to sit here and attempt to hold that against him? Lol
Had Pippen touched the ball more & shot more, he still wouldn't be Wade's equal because he is not as efficient scoring the ball.
For instance his poor shooting performance in the playoffs the year MJ took off.
I never denied Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time; he had that luxury of playing next to MJ, focusing a lot of his attention on defense.
None of what you posted proved a point, im sorry to say. DWAdes usage rate is not a negative. For instance, he dominated the ball in the 06' playoffs & led his team to a title. You going to sit here and attempt to hold that against him? Lol
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