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I do agree with this, but OTOH, I hate teams patting themselves on the back for having a tough schedule because their traffic cones are tougher than another team's traffic cones. It's not how crappy your rent-a-wins are, it's how good the top teams on your schedule are.

bullshite! Good FBS teams don't have to be on upset alert when they play crappy FCS teams like Savannah State, but they do for decent FBS teams including some from non-AQ conferences.

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LSU has had a top ten schedule for the past five seasons and yes, it has included the occasional FCS team. It has also included a steady diet of top 25 teams from other conferences, and the toughest SEC schedule possible.

Wrong again. 2011 was the only time in the last five years that any of the computers rated LSU's schedule in the top ten.

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Posted by molsusports

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Posted on 2/14/13 at 1:57 am to trackfan

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LSU has had a top ten schedule for the past five seasons and yes, it has included the occasional FCS team. It has also included a steady diet of top 25 teams from other conferences, and the toughest SEC schedule possible.

Wrong again. 2011 was the only time in the last five years that any of the computers rated LSU's schedule in the top ten.

I didn't make the claim and I'm not one that thinks the computers do a good job of differentiating what makes a schedule strong for teams of different calibers.

But FWIW

The NCAA ranked LSU #9 in 2012

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Massey ranked LSU #5 in 2012 (under SOS in that chart)

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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you realize LSU had a tremendously difficult schedule in 2011 (setting a record for the number of ranked teams beaten in a season).

Any evaluation of schedule strength that did not place LSU #1 for 2011 frankly exposed itself as a system of questionable and probably little validity

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Posted by Baloo

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Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:45 am to trackfan

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bullshite! Good FBS teams don't have to be on upset alert when they play crappy FCS teams like Savannah State, but they do for decent FBS teams including some from non-AQ conferences.

A crappy team is a crappy team. The best FCS teams could beat the worst FBS teams pretty consistently. Savannah State couldn't, but Montana or App St are routinely better than the dregs of the Sun Belt or the WAC.

And while I agree the MAC actually is better than the Sun Belt, and I rather enjoy MAC football, no team should pat itself on the back for playing a tough schedule because it decided to beat Central Michigan by 20 instead of beating Southern Illinois by 50. It's still a rent-a-win, and the marginal value of toughness is negligible over the course of the season.

Play, and beat, good teams. The only school that doesn't play FCS teams that can truly talk smack is USC, because they play a Pac-12 schedule and then play Notre Dame and routinely another high end ACQ team. Their schedule is, year in and year out, legit.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:50 am to trackfan

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bullshite! Good FBS teams don't have to be on upset alert when they play crappy FCS teams like Savannah State, but they do for decent FBS teams including some from non-AQ conferences.

a shite 1A team is no different than a solid-shite 1AA team for a good team. they're all going to get worked