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The reasons why Saints 1st round picks haven't shined.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:01 am
The draft is a crap-shoot and the the higher the pick the brighter the light on any mistake. The Saints under the Payton regime have not picked a total bust (the jury is still out on M. Ingram) but they have not exactly hit home runs on any of their first round picks either; at best, they ended up getting utility players.
Here's the list of picks under Payton:
YEAR ROUND PLAYER
2006 2 Reggie Bush
2007 27 Robert Meachem
2008 7 Sedrick Ellis
2009 14 Malcolm Jenkins
2010 32 Patrick Robinson
2011 24 Cameron Jordan
2011 28 Mark Ingram, Jr.
A few things stick out: 1. The Saints haven't been selecting too high and, therefore, the odds of finding a superstar goes down, 2. The only 2 picks we've had in the Top 10 were from USC and both underperformed their contracts (it seems this is the case with most USC players coming into the NFL) and 3. The old adage: "Never pick a running back in the 1st round" still holds.
Conclusions: 1. Trade our first rounder for more picks, 2. Don't pick a player from the Pac 12 (certainly not USC), and 3. Never draft another running back with a 1st rounder.
Here's the list of picks under Payton:
YEAR ROUND PLAYER
2006 2 Reggie Bush
2007 27 Robert Meachem
2008 7 Sedrick Ellis
2009 14 Malcolm Jenkins
2010 32 Patrick Robinson
2011 24 Cameron Jordan
2011 28 Mark Ingram, Jr.
A few things stick out: 1. The Saints haven't been selecting too high and, therefore, the odds of finding a superstar goes down, 2. The only 2 picks we've had in the Top 10 were from USC and both underperformed their contracts (it seems this is the case with most USC players coming into the NFL) and 3. The old adage: "Never pick a running back in the 1st round" still holds.
Conclusions: 1. Trade our first rounder for more picks, 2. Don't pick a player from the Pac 12 (certainly not USC), and 3. Never draft another running back with a 1st rounder.
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:20 am to adono
This will not end well for you.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:29 am to adono
Let's be gentle and just let this die by the wayside.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:31 am to adono
I look at our 1st round picks and I see pride I see power I see a bad mother ducker who wont take a no crap off a nobody...
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:32 am to adono
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Conclusions: 1. Trade our first rounder for more picks, 2. Don't pick a player from the Pac 12 (certainly not USC), and 3. Never draft another running back with a 1st rounder.
These are dumb conclusions. So we should never draft a USC player again because 2 players in the history of the Saints didn't work out? Also, you shouldn't say never draft a RB because you don't know what will happen in the future, the next Adrian Peterson could be out there in 5 years
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:43 am to adono
While I wouldn't call any if them absolute stars, the only "bust" would be Ellis IMO.
I would consider Reggie #1 by far. He was key in the rejuvenation of this team in 06 and our Super Bowl in 09.
I personally think Jordan and Ingram will be staples on this team come next year or in the near future.
I would put Meachem, Jenkins, and Robinson about in the same category. While they didn't put up first round #1s, they're key players on our team. Meachem was pretty great in 09.
Also like you mentioned, were not always picking in the top half of the first round.
I would consider Reggie #1 by far. He was key in the rejuvenation of this team in 06 and our Super Bowl in 09.
I personally think Jordan and Ingram will be staples on this team come next year or in the near future.
I would put Meachem, Jenkins, and Robinson about in the same category. While they didn't put up first round #1s, they're key players on our team. Meachem was pretty great in 09.
Also like you mentioned, were not always picking in the top half of the first round.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:08 am to adono
The 1st rounders under Payton have definitely under performed
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:13 am to adono
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the jury is still out on M. Ingram
No, it isn't.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:13 am to adono
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This will not end well for you.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:17 pm to adono
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Don't pick a player from the Pac 12 (certainly not USC)
Not this shite again
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:05 pm to adono
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2. Don't pick a player from the Pac 12 (certainly not USC),
If you believe this, then you should just stop watching sports.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:25 pm to adono
I agree with you if they have a guy they really want and they dont get him then they should trade the pick for more later picks.
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