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LSU might be better off without exiting underclassmen Glenn Guilbeau

Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:27 am
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7675 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:27 am
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BATON ROUGE — No matter how one looks at it, 10 underclass members of LSU’s 2012 football team leaving a year early for the NFL Draft is not good news.

note: warning! negatigahs, NOT FOR YOU!



edit/add for stupids:

The 2012 Tigers, largely because of the some of the above names, had gotten fat literally and figuratively.


The number of players who were not as good in ’12 as in ’11 was startling. Neither Mingo nor Montgomery put up the numbers in ’12 they did in ’11. Montgomery, at times, looked out of shape. Remember when Coach Les Miles benched him early in the season for Lavar Edwards? Remember when Miles benched Wing in the season opener because of a hamstring and used Keehn? Wing didn’t have a hamstring injury. Wing also did not have the spectacular season in ’12 he had in ’11.


Reid did not play as well in ’12 as he did in ’11. He was hurt by the loss of cornerback Tyrann Mathieu, who was kicked off the team permanently in August for continually failing tests for marijuana and has entered the draft. Reid was also hurt by the loss of cornerback Morris Claiborne, who entered the draft after ’11. Anyone would have been hurt by not having such talented teammates near him, but Reid should not have been a first team All-American last season.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 9:35 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11303 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:30 am to
Well fricking duh. It's not some revelation that we'd be better with experienced players staying.

You want to whine and cry about it? Go ahead. I don't think it's gonna help the situation much however.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66471 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:31 am to
I'm not reading that hack.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:33 am to
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I'm not reading that hack.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7675 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:33 am to
oh, stupidboy, you didn't read the article...
but, i'll add a little more for the stupid...
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:33 am to
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I'm not reading that hack.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28350 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:35 am to
What is his point? Is anybody claiming that LSU is a BCS favorite with all the declarations? Or is he saying that LSU's program is in trouble?

The first is obvious that LSU will need the young guys to step up big. The second is trolling.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7675 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:36 am to
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I'm not reading that hack.


wow, thanks for your post.

contempt prior to investigation.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:37 am to
I'm not worried about next season. LSU constantly has top ten recruiting classes and recruits kids that are ready to play, not players that will be ready in 3 years. LSU played the 2nd most freshman in the country last season and most of them got significant playing time/starts.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34856 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:38 am to
Basically says every junior leaving Had disciplinary issues or played worse in 2012, than they did in 2011.

New blood and competition may be a good thing for us.

Doesnt mention much about minter, he's the exception.

I agree about some of the players.

Our questions for 2013 are left tackle and Dline. That's it.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 9:41 am
Posted by LSUTGR1
KANSAS CITY
Member since Feb 2009
227 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:38 am to
Don't usually agree with Guilbeau but this makes a lot of sense.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Is anybody claiming that LSU is a BCS favorite with all the declarations?


Not saying they will win the National Championship, but LV only has 6 teams with lower odds to win the championship than LSU.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13071 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I'm not worried about next season. LSU constantly has top ten recruiting classes and recruits kids that are ready to play, not players that will be ready in 3 years. LSU played the 2nd most freshman in the country last season and most of them got significant playing time/starts.


Nail, meet hammer.

My friend is all worried about next year because all of the young talent. I brought up the fact that Simon was the only non-freshman CB last year and that we did pretty well in that department. Were we great? No, but did we suck? No.

Chavis will not let us down.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9362 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:51 am to
That is a positive perspective of the current mess. Hopefully that's the gospel.
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
2605 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:56 am to
Very interesting article.........I did not look at it like that.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:03 am to
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I brought up the fact that Simon was the only non-freshman CB last year and that we did pretty well in that department.


Exactly and we have some really good CBs coming in this year as well. I think Mills will be a better cover corner in 2013 than Simon was in 2012. Also, Ronald Martin played very well in his time in 2012. Reid was a good player and made some of the most memorable plays in recent memory on defense in his time at LSU, however, he took a lot of bad angles last year and looked to be a step off at times. I think Ronald Martin with Craig Loston will actually make for a very solid set of safeties.

quote:

Chavis will not let us down.


Amen brother.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:11 am to
i'm not overly worried either due to amount of youth on this team in '11.

edit: oh and also i don't read guilbeau anymore. negative or postive.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 10:12 am
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:13 am to
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LSU might be better off without exiting underclassmen


I have said this all along. New influx of hungry talent will be good. If they gel, we will be fine
Posted by JTA1985
Member since Feb 2012
3201 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:16 am to
I agree
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:17 am to
I agree. We needed to change over the core of the team.

Between 01/09 and the heartbreaking loss to Bama this year, I think the baggage on that for group was too much.

Just start anew.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 10:22 am
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