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Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:01 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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How about one for 2 yards?
Not always
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:01 pm to thunderbird1100
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No, actually Kiel coming on board was completely relevant to us having to tell another E.E. we would have to take them in the summer instead. This is my point. If you disagree that we should have kept Miller and run off Kiel instead, without knowing what would happen after, you would have made a big mistake considering needs. Once again, things happen in recruiting you cant foresee, when we told Miller he could E.E. WAY BACK, that doesn't mean things can change later on. This is SEC recruiting, apparently you dont follow it. It's a cutthroat thing.
Yes, I understand full well why the coaches did what they did. What you don't understand is that the conversation of this thread was about recruits, specifically Landon Collins, misleading coaches, and that making him an a-hole or whatever derogatory things people chose to say about him. My point is simply that it works both ways, all the time, and that Patrick miller is an example of that. Miller was told he would be able to enroll early at LSU, and at the last minute that changed due to reasons beyond miller's control. That is him being misled. Why he was misled is irrelevant, nor does it change the fact that he was misled.
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Where did I say one way or the other?
The other is the entire premise of the thread.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:05 pm to Penrod
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What I do know from watching Shep play is that he wasn't in the top four or five at any position. If it wasn't for a Rivals ranking we would think of Shep the same way we think of Rocky Duplessis.
and you wonder why the majority of the fan base think you pumpers are just stupid.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:05 pm to Choctaw
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Not always
Ok, how about one for no yards and just keep the clock running?
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:09 pm to VermilionTiger
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Keil fricked LSU out of a starti caliber olinemen because of the shite he pulled Dude deserves all the things miles said and more
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:11 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Ok, how about one for no yards and just keep the clock running?
You mean like against bama? Pretty sure everyone bitched about that too and said they should've thrown it. See what I'm getting at here?
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:11 pm to Choctaw
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I think you don't understand how booster and recruiting functions work.
I understand perfectly. Miles could have made his point without attacking the kid personally. And please don't tell me his comments weren't supposed to be found out by people that weren't there.
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What about them?
I said what about them. They are former players that have been negative of miles, and whenever it happens they get bashed on here heavily.
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Like who? I've never heard opposing coaches say anything negative about Miles.
You don't think the opposing defensive coordinator saying in a press conference that your idea of creativity on offense is running play action is a negative?
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It's amazing the lengths some of you will go in an attempt to discredit the winningest coach in LSU history
No, what's amazing are the lengths the sunshine pumpers will go to convince themselves he has never done anything wrong.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:13 pm to Open Your Eyes
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No, what's amazing are the lengths the sunshine pumpers will go to convince themselves he has never done anything wrong.
I've never said he's done nothing wrong. It's your ilk that says he can't do anything right...which is pathetic.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:17 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Not where some of his big runs came from.
Thanks chief. That was an example of hyperbole.
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No, what's amazing are the lengths the sunshine pumpers will go to convince themselves he has never done anything wrong.
Lol who the hell said he's never done anything wrong? He's human, mistakes happen all the time. It doesn't matter what way people paint it for you because you "personally" have an issue with the way he conducts himself. Like I said, confirmation bias.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:19 pm to Choctaw
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I've never said he's done nothing wrong. It's your ilk that says he can't do anything right...which is pathetic.
I've never said he can't do anything right. All I've one is pointed out the things that have actually happened.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:19 pm to Choctaw
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You mean like against bama? Pretty sure everyone bitched about that too and said they should've thrown it. See what I'm getting at here?
Mett was on fire against Bama so I understood why people wanted LSU to pass there. But I could also see the other side of that too.
But that's getting off of the subject - my point is that with a struggling offense, you should try throwing in a speed guy here or there to see what happens (not that our other guys or slow or anything), but you know...
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:24 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:so tell me how that's different than what miles did to texas to continue recruiting perilloux when he was committed to texas for about a year? it's ok for miles to do it, but if it backfires on miles he gets pissed? what gives?
Keil fricked LSU out of a starti caliber olinemen because of the shite he pulled
Dude deserves all the things miles said and more
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:25 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Mett was on fire against Bama so I understood why people wanted LSU to pass there. But I could also see the other side of that too.
But that's getting off of the subject - my point is that with a struggling offense, you should try throwing in a speed guy here or there to see what happens (not that our other guys or slow or anything), but you know...
It's become obvious over the past couple of years what kind of offense he wants. A "speed guy" is going to get limited touches no matter who it is, or how good he is.
Ford is a good example. Miles favors Ware/Hill. He wants to pound the rock in most cases.
I don't think you have to take it as a criticism, but I also don't think you can dispute it as fact.
Shep and others who aren't physical just aren't going to fit in this offense.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:27 pm to the crue
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so tell me how that's different than what miles did to texas to continue recruiting perilloux when he was committed to texas for about a year? it's ok for miles to do it, but if it backfires on miles he gets pissed? what gives?
This is exactly the point. That's the way the game is played now, and there's no reason to be upset about it. It is what it is.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:38 pm to HowboutthemTigers
I think Kiel just caved in to his parents. Like he said he couldn't make up his mind. Brother played at Indiana. Lsu was the talk of the town last year then his uncle played at Notre dame.
LC made his decision. He didn't cave in and did the opposite. Won't amount to much is my thought. I mean outside of lacy, who had grade issues so that is why lsu stopped recruiting him, what la player on Bama has done shite? Bell isn't great but he is good.
LC made his decision. He didn't cave in and did the opposite. Won't amount to much is my thought. I mean outside of lacy, who had grade issues so that is why lsu stopped recruiting him, what la player on Bama has done shite? Bell isn't great but he is good.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's become obvious over the past couple of years what kind of offense he wants. A "speed guy" is going to get limited touches no matter who it is, or how good he is.
The odd thing is that I basically agree with his philosophy of pounding it first. If you look at the NC winners each year, the physical running game tends to be a common trait.
But Les takes it to this other level that I don't agree with. He does ground and pound a lot of the time with about four plays over and over. Predictability hurts you unless you are superior in talent and flawless in execution. Speed guys and change-of-pace guys are important too.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:11 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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But Les takes it to this other level that I don't agree with. He does ground and pound a lot of the time with about four plays over and over. Predictability hurts you unless you are superior in talent and flawless in execution. Speed guys and change-of-pace guys are important too
Yep, but they will be extremely limited players in that offense. If Ford can't get the touches, no one will.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:16 pm to tigerbru17
Landon played in all 13 games this year with 14 tackles
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tigerbru17
Gunner Kiel/Landon Collins reflects on college choices-miles related
Landon dosent play and Gunner is leaving. Yeah great choice T.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:39 pm to thunderbird1100
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Neither contributed this year or are playing in the game. I guess a towel waving championship is fun though
Not true at all. Landon Collins has played in every single game this year. He's a starter on Special Teams, blocked a punt against Missouri, and recorded 14 tackles on defense in garbage time.
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