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Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:30 pm to ZTiger87
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That and the SEC has been way more competitive than the Big 12 over the last 10 seasons.
the Big12 had 3 teams who had arguments to go to the title game in 2008, bro
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:32 pm to RollTide1987
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This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the Big12 had 3 teams who had arguments to go to the title game in 2008, bro
What about the other 9 years?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:32 pm to Adam4LSU
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What's his % over ranked teams? That's what I would like to see.
posted this in the other thread and although its not his complete record of what you're asking for, it gives you an idea of how much he has shite the bed when being the higher ranked team in their bowl games -
Oklahoma has been the higher ranked team in 8 out of 14 of their bowl games. 4 of their 7 losses came against teams ranked below them -
1999: Ole Miss (neither teams were ranked in top 25, but Oklahoma was ranked higher)
2004: #2 LSU VS #1 Oklahoma
2007: #9 Boise State vs #7 Oklahoma
2008: #11 West Virginia vs #3 Oklahoma
and 4 of their 7 wins have came against teams ranked below them
2000: #3 Florida State vs #1 Oklahoma
2001: (NR) Arkansas vs #10 Oklahoma
2010: #25 UCONN vs #9 Oklahoma
2011: (NR) Iowa vs #14 Oklahoma
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the Big12 had 3 teams who had arguments to go to the title game in 2008, bro
So you point to 1 year out of 10? The SEC has had 5 different schools win the SEC multiple times in the last 11 seasons and 4 different schools win a national championship in that same time frame.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:35 pm to Adam4LSU
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What about the other 9 years?
Oklahoma State last year.
Texas won it in 2005, lost it in 2009, and was a legit contender in 2001 and 2008. Had the talent in 2002 and 2004.
Colorado had an argument to be in the game in 2001.
Nebraska was in the game in 2001.
The conference has been the second best BCS conference during Stoops' tenure. It's stupid to diminish what Stoops has accomplished by understating the quality of the conference.
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:39 pm to mattz1122
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:47 pm to mattz1122
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Colorado had an argument to be in the game in 2001.
Nebraska was in the game in 2001.
More than 10 years ago.
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Texas won it in 2005, lost it in 2009, and was a legit contender in 2001 and 2008. Had the talent in 2002 and 2004.
The only other team in the Big 12 that has been consistently good the last 10 years.
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Oklahoma State last year.
3-17 vs OU and Texas over the last 10 seasons. In the last 10 seasons Texas Tech and Ok. St. are the only other teams besides OU and Texas that have come close to playing in a national championship. That means 8 of the last 10 seasons have basically been owned by 2 schools.
Eta: I'm a Bob Stoops fan and think he is easily a top 10 coach. But you would be crazy to think the Big 12 has been as competitive over the last 10 seasons as the SEC has.
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:49 pm to Adam4LSU
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Oklahoma IMO is a top 5-10 job. They could probably get any big name they wanted if the job opened up. The guy hasn't legitimately sniffed a title in almost 8 years now and loses just about EVERY big game they play in.
I really don't understand it. Can you imagine him at LSU?
He arse rapes Mack and Texas every year. That's how
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:51 pm to JLock
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He arse rapes Mack and Texas every year. That's how
Not every year but more often than not
And he didn't follow a coach like Saban. He followed some black dude who sucked.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:52 pm to ZTiger87
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More than 10 years ago.
The Big 12 was arguably the best conference at the time.
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The only other team in the Big 12 that has been consistently good the last 10 years.
Kansas State was consistently good during the beginning of Stoops' tenure. Teams such as Tech and OSU took KSU's place until this year. The point stands that the conference has been competitive and has had good teams. So what if it hasn't been the same three or four programs?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:56 pm to mattz1122
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@SpenceTillman
Our play is disinterested and soft! Time to clean house!!!!!!! This isn't Sooner Football! Sorry Sooner Nation! Nobody loves them more.
When guys like this speak up it's not promising
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:04 pm to TigerLicks
We had Brian Jones do that earlier this season. Doesn't mean shite until the big money donors start bitching.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:37 pm to Adam4LSU
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He's done what Les Miles has done and nobody can stand Miles. I'm just using rant logic here.
My mind starts to get conflicted by reading the rant too much I guess.
miles' biggest problem is how stubborn he is by sticking with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust philosophy. Stoops has always had an aggressive approach on offense and has embraced the spread. You can't fault stoops for being too conservative or stubborn, which is why people complain about miles. stoop's problem is he can't keep his team focused, prepared or motivated during the long layoff during bowl season.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:43 pm to bomber77
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He's a Top 10 college football coach , that's how.
This. People's expectations are out of fricking control!
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm going to go back to 2003
2003: lost to a better team
2004: lost to a better team
2006: lost to BSU. OU only made it to the BCS b/c colt mccoy got hurt and UT lost their last 2 games. OU slid into the big12 title game and had a WR playing QB that year due to car gate
2007: lost to a better team
2008: lost to a better team
2012: lost to a better team
i mean there is only so much he can do when people overrate OU and people believe their opponents are underdogs
that is pretty accurate, however i dont know if west virginia without rich rod was better than oklahoma in 2007.
stoops' biggest problem is how bad they played in some of those games(mainly the k-state big12 championship, 55-19 against usc and blowout loss against west va). tonights performance was dogshit as well.
2003 vs lsu, 06 vs boise and 08 vs florida they lost to better teams and didnt emberass themselves.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:16 am to 632627
8 BCS bowl games since 2001'. Thats a lot of money hes bringing into the program.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:18 am to Weebie
Oh, so exhibition games really matter these days?
Also, fewer than 10% of his games coached is a better indication of his coaching prowess than his entire body of work?
Do tell us more, oh wise rantard.
Also, fewer than 10% of his games coached is a better indication of his coaching prowess than his entire body of work?
Do tell us more, oh wise rantard.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:43 am to TigerLicks
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@SpenceTillman
Our play is disinterested and soft! Time to clean house!!!!!!! This isn't Sooner Football! Sorry Sooner Nation! Nobody loves them more.
When guys like this speak up it's not promising
you mean when morons speak????
because Spencer Tillman is a total moron
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