re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise.

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This franchise has a losing record for its all-time history.

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How in the frick do you expect it to ever get to a winning record? You win mother fricking games! And with Payton they have won a shite load of them. How hard is this for you to grasp? It takes time.

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This franchise has a losing record for this season.

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No shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder fricking why!!!

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This franchise has a losing record for its all-time history.

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This is irrelevant to anything the organization is trying to accomplish currently.

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This franchise has a losing record for this season.

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And your point is? The entire organization went through a sequence of events this calendar year that NO team has gone through in the history of the NFL. If you can't see how that effected the outcome of this season then you need to stick your dick in a meat grinder.

The fact that the organization has tied down the two most intricual personalities responsible for the Saints success over the last several years, speaks against the rubbish you are spewing. Not only have they tied them down with contracts but those contracts have made Payton & Brees the highest paid at their respected positions.

It was a must that both Brees & Payton maintain onboard to keep the arrow pointing in the right direction. If taking care of your most valuable assets isn't something top notch organizations do then I don't know what else they can do to please people like you. People like you expect championships just to fall from the sky.