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re: LSU BBALL #19 in ESPN BBALL Index

Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:26 pm to
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Obviously you haven't followed LSU ball very closely.


If following LSU basketball closely means I'm supposed to think Andrew Del Piero is an NBA draft pick, then I don't want to follow LSU Basketball closely.

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Coach Brady brought us to the final four in '06. And don't say a word about him being lucky to have that group of guys together.


The two are not mutually exclusive. An extremely talented group of players, all basically the same age and from the same area, carried that team to the final 4. Period, end of story.

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Brady had better recruiting classes every year at LSU.


Louisiana, and Baton Rouge in particular, had an abundance of talent while Brady was the coach here that simply did not exist while Johnson was the coach. There was actually a year where Eddie Ludwig was the best senior in Louisiana.

The ONLY thing Brady gets credit for over Johnson is maintaining a good relationship with Collis Temple, allowing him to sign many of the in state kids he wanted. Maybe if Johnson had done that, Langston Galloway and Brian Williams don't leave. Although I'm not sure that would've overcome Galloway''s connection to St. joes. There are still MANY recruits that left the state instead f playing for Brady, like DJ Augustin. And then you have guys like Tweety Carter and Lacedarius Dunn that he didn't even bother contacting. And for gods sake, he didn't sign a single player, not one, after taking a team to he final 4. How is that even possible?

Arguing who was the better recruiter between Brady and Johnson is like arguing the smartest kid with down-syndrome. They were both terrible, nothing more nothing less.

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Aaron Dotson and Matt Derenbecker were Johnson's 2 best recruits, other than JOB III and guess what?


What does that even mean other than O'Bryant? Did he recruit him or not? And who got Justin Hamilton here if Johnson didn't? What about Anthony Hickey? Malik Morgan?

Speaking of Hickey, I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that Johnson did something else Brady couldn't: Sign a true pg.

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They BOTH quit on TJ.


Dotson left to be closer to his ailing mother as I recall, and Derenbecker was removed from school by his equally crazy father for off the court issues. Go ask Dayton fans what they think of those 2.

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And please, give me an example of players who hated playing for Brady? please?


Do I really have to go through and list the mass exodus of players that left the team while he was the coach? After all as you just proved, that's your criteria for proving a player hates a coach.

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I feel the same about you, if you actually do follow LSU ball, you must be stupid


You said Andrew Del Piero was an NBA draft pick big guy. Other posters that have argued against me in his thread have called you out on it. Just let all that simmer for a moment.

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Coach TJ drove the program straight into the ground big guy.


O'Bryant and Hickey are here because of Johnson. Coleman was coming even if Johnson was still here. Stringer was here because of Johnson. Morgan signed while Johnson was here. That's 5 of the top 6 players on this years team, a team that you are heaping tons of praise on already. Explain that one, big guy.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:33 pm to
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Arguing who was the better recruiter between Brady and Johnson is like arguing the smartest kid with down-syndrome

Not really Brady was a much better recruiter mostly because he actually acknowledged the existence of Texas.

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Coleman was coming even if Johnson was still here.

Would he have even offered Coleman? He's not a 4 year guy.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2937 posts
Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:37 pm to
I'm not wasting time arguing you down on this one.
I said POTENTIAL NBA draft pick, that means there is a possibility, open your eyes
And no, John Brady was a large part of the final four run.
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Louisiana, and Baton Rouge in particular, had an abundance of talent while Brady was the
O yea? What about Jaime Lloreda? Magnum Rolle? Regis Koundja?

Anyway, the eye test shows how pathetic Coach Johnson was. At least Bradyball had an opportunity to do something special. Same with JJ. TJ just wasn't good enough bru

And o yea, why didn't we get Gathers from Riverside??? Didn't he say something like "Coach Johnson didn't show much interest in me"?
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 10:46 pm
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